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Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
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Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#62While on topic of Skype: My God the latest Skype design update is abysmal, whoever come up with that horrible mess should be fired and never touch any design or management role at all. And it’s not only design but the ux is horrible too, when you switch between conversation - it does not focus on the chat box field so you can start typing right away, instead you have to click it first. This is a basic stuff for a cha…
> on iPhone X when you accidentally click top left corner of the phone where the clock is - for some inexplicable reason the whole conversation scrolls all the way to the top, which is incredibly annoying!
That's by design and standard iOS behaviour (it has been there for years). Tapping anywhere on the system toolbar (i.e. where the clock, wifi, signal strength indicators are) brings the main scrollable view to its "topmost" position.
Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#63Ugh, people are still using Skype?
Just curious, what do you use ?
Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#64While on topic of Skype: My God the latest Skype design update is abysmal, whoever come up with that horrible mess should be fired and never touch any design or management role at all. And it’s not only design but the ux is horrible too, when you switch between conversation - it does not focus on the chat box field so you can start typing right away, instead you have to click it first. This is a basic stuff for a cha…
> on iPhone X when you accidentally click top left corner of the phone where the clock is - for some inexplicable reason the whole conversation scrolls all the way to the top, which is incredibly annoying! That's by design and standard iOS behaviour (it has been there for years). Tapping anywhere on the system toolbar (i.e. where the clock, wifi, signal strength indicators are) brings the main scrollable view to its…
Yes, this is an iPhone X bezel design flaw, not a Skype design flaw. :)
Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe they have an 'understanding' about the implementation of the cryptography as they do with WhatsApp, meaning the program doesn't notify you when your opposite's keys change, leaving unscrupulous users (most) susceptible to MitM attacks, which could be used by law enforcement or three-letter-agencies. Plus, Skype probably still makes extensive use of meta-data, Signal allege that they don't, but we can't really a…
Why would you want to assess what's actually running on their servers? Even if you know the code on it, you have no guarantee it's not running inside a hypervisor that logs the contents of memory, or something. In terms of cryptographic robustness, it's good for an app like Signal to have a closed-source server, because it forces you to not trust the server. (This is of course separate from whether it's good for the…
True, but it seems like wishful thinking for Internet users to reasonably assess the dangers of trusting the 'Cloud' with private data.
Still, I think the most important breaches of privacy are not necessarily in decoding the messages themselves, but rather everything from location data to contact lists including time and number of communications these apps have access to by default.
Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#66While on topic of Skype: My God the latest Skype design update is abysmal, whoever come up with that horrible mess should be fired and never touch any design or management role at all. And it’s not only design but the ux is horrible too, when you switch between conversation - it does not focus on the chat box field so you can start typing right away, instead you have to click it first. This is a basic stuff for a cha…
Without this, where would we get all the work place camaraderie in meetings as people provide helpful suggestions to the presenter to get the remote site communication and sharing to connect!
Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
They can still lawful intercept. All they have to do is push a MITMed version to suspected law breakers. It's going to be closed source just like WhatsApp, so of course, it will be easy for LE to defeat while shedding crocodile tears publicly about how it's uncrackable.
How could Skype target binaries to individual users?
They don't need it. They can simply turn a switch and disable E2E between parties under investigation.
Remember this is closed source and you're using a central infrastructure.
Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#68While on topic of Skype: My God the latest Skype design update is abysmal, whoever come up with that horrible mess should be fired and never touch any design or management role at all. And it’s not only design but the ux is horrible too, when you switch between conversation - it does not focus on the chat box field so you can start typing right away, instead you have to click it first. This is a basic stuff for a cha…
> on iPhone X when you accidentally click top left corner of the phone where the clock is - for some inexplicable reason the whole conversation scrolls all the way to the top, which is incredibly annoying! That's by design and standard iOS behaviour (it has been there for years). Tapping anywhere on the system toolbar (i.e. where the clock, wifi, signal strength indicators are) brings the main scrollable view to its…
I just tried it on this webpage, and you’re correct!
I really dislike behavior like this that is useful to a few people but is far more likely to be encountered accidentally and feel buggy.
Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Still looking for something that is free, does (persistent) group chat, voice calls, file sharing, and group voice calls. Bonus if it shares screen. Have tried various alternatives but actually not yet found anything that works as good as skype, despite having terrible UX. The sound quality is second to none and file sharing etc usually "just works".
Discord does all of this, though it's not E2E encrypted, and does it all with a fantastic UX.
For some reason having the (non business) Skype is not hard to sell in a big "old school" enterprise, because it's microsoft.
I'd have a much harder time selling Discord because of how they market themselves. They could make "discord for business" that is literally the same app and have great success.
Other than that my only complaint is that it's a bit electron-y.
Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#70This is still an optional feature, so like 98%+ of the users will not use, and the other 2% probably won't use it all the time either.
Right now only Signal and WhatsApp enable the end-to-end encryption by default.
Microsoft should remember that they can't use the excuse that "they can't provide law enforcement with the messages" unless the users were also using the E2E mode/Private Conversations.
It would also help if Microsoft stopped supporting voice calls in its main client, too, as that automatically qualifies it as a "telecom provider" in many countries, which means it automatically falls under the same lawful intercept laws that affect telecom providers.
Unless these changes are made, then this news hardly changes anything in regards to Skype messages being intercepted.