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Cory Doctorow: Persuasion, Adaptation, and the Arms Race for Your Attention

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Re: Cory Doctorow: Persuasion, Adaptation, and the Arms Race for Your Attention

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Post by hugo0384729109 »

tannhaeuser wrote: post #19
superkuh wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no better time than now (Meltdown/Spectre) to switch to whitelist only JS (NoScript works). The menu/ads completely fail to display but the text is just fine.

It would be an excellent outcome of Meltdown/Spectre if we could just get rid of JavaScript and other attempts at throwing arbitrary crap code at you (such as WASM unblockable ads, bc miners, and what not) and work towards the original goal of the Web as federated (or even better p2p) hyperlinked documents once again.

Seriously. My kingdom for 10pt verdana and a few hours clicking through a web ring.

Re: Cory Doctorow: Persuasion, Adaptation, and the Arms Race for Your Attention

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Post by hugo0384729109 »

Bartweiss wrote: post #36
hugo0384729109 wrote: post #3

A bit odd to open an article about an arms race for my attention and see an ad for a book (A whirlwind out-of-this-galaxy adventure! #1 New York Times best selling author...) in the menu that takes up the top half of the page, and then only the title of the article and no actual text before scrolling (mobile safari)... and then a donate now box also came up over 80% of the screen. Also a nice touch to have all the so…

Honestly, BoingBoing has devoted itself to misleading-hype summaries of other people's content in almost the same manner as Huffington Post. I'll still give Doctorow credit for emphasizing the right topics, like media accountability and a cooperative browsing experience. But his personal output is hardly consistent with those positions...

I agree re giving him credit and I’m certainly a fan. It’s a hard topic to publish about on the web because that type or article could very easily be a plain static HTML page with no JavaScript on a personal server but obviously he’s a professional writer and probably sold to that site to get paid (fair enough) and the site gets that money from ads so circle of life but still dissonant to take the message to heart in that context.

Re: Cory Doctorow: Persuasion, Adaptation, and the Arms Race for Your Attention

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Post by dahart »

cdoctorow wrote: post #59
dahart wrote: post #32

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> Always interested in what Cory Doctorow has to say I used to be, then I met him in person. I loved reading his stuff on BoingBoing. I caught him at a book signing at Siggraph in Vancouver one year. I bought his book, and waited in line, excited to talk to him. I asked him what I thought was an interesting question about the difference between print and digital copyrights, and how the laws should change for digital.…

Hey there. I certainly don't recall this exchange, and it sounds rather out of character for me. I have consulted for Disney on and off for a decade and was the inaugural artist in residence for the Blue Sky and R&D groups at WDI. Today my wife is the head of Studiolab at WDS (my work on the Ghost Post project last year helped WDI R&D win a Thea, and they were kind enough to credit the work to me). I literally can't…

Well, howdy Cory! It would be absolutely Herculean if you actually remembered random exchanges from your book signings of years past, but I certainly did leave feeling raked over the coals by the entire exchange, not just a single comment.

Thank you. I am happy to accept your apology and move on. I'm also happy to acknowledge that I could have mis-interpreted your comments, that you might have been joking or hungry or just in a bad mood then, who knows.

Re: Cory Doctorow: Persuasion, Adaptation, and the Arms Race for Your Attention

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Post by vog »

C0d3r wrote: post #17
vog wrote: post #14

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> I highly recommend reading up on what Cory has to say on DRM and the war on general purpose computing. It may change your mind. Does he argue convincingly in favour of DRM? Otherwise, I don't see how he would change my mind about DRM.

The name of one the articles is: Cory Doctorow says fight against DRM laws is more important than his blogging So, no, he won't change your mind about DRM because he is not in favour of it.

I was just making fun of freedomben's overexaggerated phrases "highly recommend ... It may change your mind" bla bla stuff.

Re: Cory Doctorow: Persuasion, Adaptation, and the Arms Race for Your Attention

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Post by freedomben »

dahart wrote: post #32
freedomben wrote: post #2

Always interested in what Cory Doctorow has to say. While this particular blog post isn't about DRM, his work is benefiting everyone (except those who would rather enrich themselves at the expense of humanity). It's probably bigger than you think. I highly recommend reading up on what Cory has to say on DRM and the war on general purpose computing. It may change your mind. http://www.zdnet.com/article/cory-doctorow-s…

> Always interested in what Cory Doctorow has to say I used to be, then I met him in person. I loved reading his stuff on BoingBoing. I caught him at a book signing at Siggraph in Vancouver one year. I bought his book, and waited in line, excited to talk to him. I asked him what I thought was an interesting question about the difference between print and digital copyrights, and how the laws should change for digital.…

Sad but interesting story, thanks for sharing. I've had a similar experience with meeting someone IRL and being totally disappointed at what a jerk they were.

You sound like an awesome person to me :-)

Re: Cory Doctorow: Persuasion, Adaptation, and the Arms Race for Your Attention

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Post by coldtea »

>As we all know, time travelers have to be very careful when they visit the past, because their evolved immune systems allow them to harbor pathogens that the olde timey people are defenseless against.

Actually it goes both ways. Evolution doesn't have an arrow, and a because their evolved immune systems allow them to harbor pathogen that the 10.000B.C people had evolved to defend against might be lethal in the 22nd century.

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