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James Damore has filed a class action lawsuit against Google

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Re: James Damore has filed a class action lawsuit against Google

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the quote you pulled not saying the same thing as this from Damore's memo? > I’m simply stating that the distribution of preferences and abilities of men and women differ in part due to biological causes and that these differences may explain why we don’t see equal representation of women in tech and leadership. Edit: ebbv beat me to it

There's a difference between "fewer women wind up having the skills for X" and "women are worse at X".

Men are worse at understanding the overlap in response to those two variants.

Re: James Damore has filed a class action lawsuit against Google

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From the article: > women may not be equally represented in tech because they are biologically less capable of engineering Why do news outlets persistently misrepresent what he actually said? I've read his memo and just about every news article says it contains claims that it doesn't. I have no view on whether he's right or not, but I remain shocked at the misrepresentation of his views throughout the tech media.

Is the quote you pulled not saying the same thing as this from Damore's memo? > I’m simply stating that the distribution of preferences and abilities of men and women differ in part due to biological causes and that these differences may explain why we don’t see equal representation of women in tech and leadership. Edit: ebbv beat me to it

That's still twisting his argument. I've read an article that argued that while highly intelligent women are equally capable of doing STEM, they're _more_ capable/interested with regards to interpersonal relationships, so they're more likely to go into fields like medicine, politics, marketing etc.

Re: James Damore has filed a class action lawsuit against Google

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A fool and his money are soon parted.

You really think the firm is taking an upfront fee or retainer for this? I assume they are expecting a settlement from Google/Alphabet so that the company can put an end to this PR nightmare once and for all, from which they will take a cut.

If I was the firm I would. For google's intended audience it's basically free advertising.

Re: James Damore has filed a class action lawsuit against Google

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good! If googly butts were SMARTER than they pretend to be, they'd actually offer him angel funds to start up a completely NEW platform to COMPETE with their frankenstenian perverted still a butt buddy collectivista broken search engine legacy! But then they'd have to go up against the TRULY evil giant bully in the room which is PALANTIR! Bwuahahahahaha. We're gonna gitch ya anyway, no matter WHO you scapegoat you holire than thou fucktards! Good Luck James! Hope you win a tidy sum that easily funds your creativity and passion and that you are able to provide the world with what Google et all promised but sold out to the most evil [wealthy] bidders.

Re: James Damore has filed a class action lawsuit against Google

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the quote you pulled not saying the same thing as this from Damore's memo? > I’m simply stating that the distribution of preferences and abilities of men and women differ in part due to biological causes and that these differences may explain why we don’t see equal representation of women in tech and leadership. Edit: ebbv beat me to it

There's a difference between "fewer women wind up having the skills for X" and "women are worse at X".

But is he not saying that fewer women end up having the skills for engineering because of something in their biology? When I read the memo I thought that was his whole point...

Re: James Damore has filed a class action lawsuit against Google

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the quote you pulled not saying the same thing as this from Damore's memo? > I’m simply stating that the distribution of preferences and abilities of men and women differ in part due to biological causes and that these differences may explain why we don’t see equal representation of women in tech and leadership. Edit: ebbv beat me to it

There's a difference between "fewer women wind up having the skills for X" and "women are worse at X".

Is there really a difference if you believe the reason women "wind up" lacking the skills for X is due to biology? Asserting biology makes it essentialist, it's the same as saying "women are worse at X."

Re: James Damore has filed a class action lawsuit against Google

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From the article: > women may not be equally represented in tech because they are biologically less capable of engineering Why do news outlets persistently misrepresent what he actually said? I've read his memo and just about every news article says it contains claims that it doesn't. I have no view on whether he's right or not, but I remain shocked at the misrepresentation of his views throughout the tech media.

Can you elaborate on what in your mind is the correct interpretation ? Because, reading his memo, I had the exact same takeaway as the Techcrunch quote you posted here.

I tried to explain this in a blog post. It also irritates me why this is so consequently misinterpreted, as it makes for quite a big difference for the overall narrative. Because of course if someone would claim that an individual woman cannot be as good as an individual man in engineering (or better), that person would be an idiot.

"Misunderstanding statistical distribution" https://medium.com/@martinweigert/misunderstanding-probabili...

Re: James Damore has filed a class action lawsuit against Google

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Watching discovery occur on this case will be interesting.

It'll get settled first to avoid discovery, I suspect. Class action makes settling more awkward, but still, Google has more financial interest in avoiding discovery than winning the case.
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