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Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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Not if it’s consensual.

That's why you can still duel with someone you dislike. /s

You absolutely can, in a boxing ring for example. It's not unconstrained violence if it takes place within a framework of rules - i.e. it's a sport. NFL tackles being the same thing.

A Twitter feed showing _only_ illegal violent NFL tackles? Well, that might just get banned now.

Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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That's how authoritarianism is and will be implemented in the US: by using the excuse that because a corporation is doing it, then it's not bound by the constitution. "Twitter is a private entity, so they don't have to follow the first amendment." But when the government has privatized and outsourced everything to corporations, then the corporations control the narrative, and censorship becomes de facto instead of by law. Corporations are a workaround to get around constitutional limitations.

Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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Twitter is not journalism. And as you yourself have pointed out, Trump is one of the most powerful people on earth—meaning he has at his disposal more platforms than any of us can even dream of. Twitter can no more "police his speech" than I can police all of Facebook. What Twitter can do is decide they don't want Trump to be an active member of their community. That is not just within their legal rights; it's well w…

Should twitter also ban the accounts of the president of Russia and the president of China, because of their support of policies which violate human rights? (LGBT, Tibet, democracy, the list is long, pick your favorite). What about the account of Barack Obama, who supported extra-judicial drone killings of US citizens? https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/14/13577464/...

You're conflating a lot here. People think Trump should be banned from Twitter because of the inflammatory content of his tweets, not because of objectionable things he does elsewhere. Unless Barack Obama made a bunch of tweets exhorting drone strikes that I'm unaware of, the comparison you're suggesting doesn't go through.

Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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There's nothing wrong with Twitter operating a highly moderated platform. Hacker News is a successful example. In both cases though, it's a huge problem that there aren't alternatives that do off truly uncensored speech. At the very least, there needs to be a force that checks these organizations when they step over the line.

Well there is gab.ai and the mastodon network to provide similar services with (allegedly) less censorship.

Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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This is going to be fun. > Accounts that affiliate with organizations that use or promote violence against civilians > Content that glorifies violence or the perpetrators of a violent act. * "Support our troops" * "Punch a Nazi" * Basically any enthusiastic history account. * Mall ninjas. * Any action movie/tv property. * Star Wars. * UFC It seems almost puritan to try and deny humanity's love of violence. > If an ac…

> Accounts that affiliate with organizations that use or promote violence against civilians

So, every US federal agency's, and every local police force's twitter accounts will be shut down?

Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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Many will report antifa accounts. It will be a shitfest whatever Twitter does: ban - they are pro fascists and can't distinguish between "good" violence versus "bad" violence, no ban - they have double standards for left versus right.

There's a such thing as good violence?

Why does your country have an army? A police force?

Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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Yeah, this is absolute doublespeak. Twitter's not 'enforcing' anything, and as others have pointed out, they are actually making the situation worse. Now it's clear that even Twitter says if you're rich and famous you can be abusive without the same consequences as someone who is not wealthy. Ridiculous. Nobody has ever held Trump accountable for anything. Hilariously, Twitter holds a lot of power over Trump due to c…

> Nobody has ever held Trump accountable for anything. Hilariously, Twitter holds a lot of power over Trump due to controlling his popular account. They could hold him accountable. They choose not to. Insane. Trump is the elected president of USA, one of the most important country on Earth. The fact that you suggest a private company should police his speak is insane to me.

If the President (any of them) posted here at HN, and starting saying things against the site and community rules, then I would 100% hope that the moderators would "police his speak".

The President is a person, not a god. If they want to use a private platform to speak, then they have to accept that platform's rules, just like anyone else. If they don't like that platform's policy, then they can use any other platform in the world.

Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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This is going to be fun. > Accounts that affiliate with organizations that use or promote violence against civilians > Content that glorifies violence or the perpetrators of a violent act. * "Support our troops" * "Punch a Nazi" * Basically any enthusiastic history account. * Mall ninjas. * Any action movie/tv property. * Star Wars. * UFC It seems almost puritan to try and deny humanity's love of violence. > If an ac…

> Accounts that affiliate with organizations that use or promote violence against civilians So, every US federal agency's, and every local police force's twitter accounts will be shut down?

You should read the actual post, not just the comments.

> This policy does not apply to military or government entities and we will consider exceptions for groups that are currently engaging in (or have engaged in) peaceful resolution.

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