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DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Post by TheCoelacanth »

hiram112 wrote: post #51
falsedan wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The quota for E-3s is 10,000/year, it gets about 30% subscribed (with new applications, renewals aren't capped), and it's providing the free and open movement of labour that the AU-US FTA requires. but also: white Australians don't trigger racist reactions & clamping down on all Australian E-3 immigrants would not be as effect of a dogwhistle.

Is it really that Americans are just not racist against Australian workers , but are racist towards brown people on work visas? Or could it be something else? Maybe Americans don't tend to see their whole IT and Dev departments being filled with Australians, who are NOT willing to work in high COL areas on $60k year, share apartments and a car among 6 adults, and work 60 hours a week since the money they're saving wo…

> Maybe Americans don't tend to see their whole IT and Dev departments being filled with Australians, who are NOT willing to work in high COL areas on $60k year, share apartments and a car among 6 adults, and work 60 hours a week since the money they're saving won't buy them squat once home in Australia.

How does stopping their spouses from working prevent that? If anything, they would be the least affected by this change because anyone doing that is probably young and single.

Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Post by craftyguy »

hiram112 wrote: post #53
hcknwscommenter wrote: post #27

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It is both punitive and disgusting, and it benefits no one.

Except for the US citizens who now might have a job or even a bit of wage growth after 30 years of non-stop immigration from mostly low wage countries, with the ensuing wage arbitrage used by US businesses.

You are completely wrong if you think no US citizen has gotten a job or not experienced wage growth in the last 30 years.

Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Post by tehlike »

NTDF9 wrote: post #52
tehlike wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely, but there is something about western life that attracts people, too.

I assure you that Europe and Australia are quite western.

Sure, but let me change it a bit: american way of life has its appeals.

Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Post by peg_leg »

darkdreams wrote: post #31

The E-3 visa (meant for Australians) doesn't have any work restrictions on spouses. Why isn't the administration targeting those visas/ead if this is indeed about "Hire American and buy American" ?

Because the administration is targeting Obama era rules. It's a government of vindiction. There is no other logic

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Post by grad_ml »

Message is loud and clear. No Indians are welcome. Now indians on h1b need to figure out, if they will migrate to Canada with skills they have, will they start business in India. Govt have no intentions of improving GC process. Govt want to stop legal immigration under different disguises. I don't know how many people are aware that it takes 3-4 years to get I-120, after some one starts job on H1b. That means all H1b's, who have been here for 3+ years need to go back or become poor in USA.

Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Post by grad_ml »

falsedan wrote: post #43
darkdreams wrote: post #31

The E-3 visa (meant for Australians) doesn't have any work restrictions on spouses. Why isn't the administration targeting those visas/ead if this is indeed about "Hire American and buy American" ?

The quota for E-3s is 10,000/year, it gets about 30% subscribed (with new applications, renewals aren't capped), and it's providing the free and open movement of labour that the AU-US FTA requires. but also: white Australians don't trigger racist reactions & clamping down on all Australian E-3 immigrants would not be as effect of a dogwhistle.

Not but also, but only. Here is the thing, spouses of h1b can only work after getting I-140. For most of the indians, when they are legit, it will take 2-4 years after they start working on fresh h1b to get I-140. For non Indians, they will mostly have green card by then, so for them, all good. for 85,000 (h1b per year) 0.7(70% indians) 3 (years) * 0.5( 50% i-140 approval), families would would be forced to live on single income.

Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Post by grad_ml »

hiram112 wrote: post #51
falsedan wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The quota for E-3s is 10,000/year, it gets about 30% subscribed (with new applications, renewals aren't capped), and it's providing the free and open movement of labour that the AU-US FTA requires. but also: white Australians don't trigger racist reactions & clamping down on all Australian E-3 immigrants would not be as effect of a dogwhistle.

Is it really that Americans are just not racist against Australian workers , but are racist towards brown people on work visas? Or could it be something else? Maybe Americans don't tend to see their whole IT and Dev departments being filled with Australians, who are NOT willing to work in high COL areas on $60k year, share apartments and a car among 6 adults, and work 60 hours a week since the money they're saving wo…

I sense BS here. Come to SF, you'll see everyone sharing apartments. Having roommate is a personal choice, either you get in debt like typical american or live frugally. If someone doesn't have family in US and knows that he'll be kicked out because of his brown color, why would he spend money? Most americans are not stupid and americans have been pretty friendly to immigrants? Plain, simple lie. America has been always racist, look back how the orientals were treated in recent past. And, I/m talking about recent past.

Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Post by grad_ml »

rurban wrote: post #56
thriftwy wrote: post #41

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So you are suggesting some of H1B slots will stay empty? If they're not, what's the problem? The best performers still got their visas, and USA got the top talent.

No, the best performers couldn't get a visa or had to leave the country, because of the cheap Asian imports, who overrun the system. With the proposed min. salary this would have helped a bit, but the numbers are still too high so that many high performers have to work remote. Which hurts the US economy because their workforce will not learn anything from the high performers. Now with the retracted spouse rule you ag…

I think, you are far from truth. To work on EAD, one needs i-140, which is enroute to green card. So non Indian and chinese, get their green card in 2 years. After green card, every thing becomes immaterial. So ONLY Indians and Chinese get messed up.

Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Post by walshemj »

tehlike wrote: post #36
product50 wrote: post #12

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I think he will likely increase the minimum salary bar for IT professionals to qualify for H1 from the current $60k to potentially over $100k. That will wreck a lot Indian IT companies business models where currently it is a price arbitrage game.

Sounds fishy, but would it be possible that the increase in salary would still end up coming from the pocket of the "employer"? Like some sort of "kickback" employee has to pay per year to a shell agency for recruiting kindof thing.

which is highly ileagal in the USA
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