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Re: Cards Against Humanity Redistributes Your Wealth

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Post by sctb »

fragsworth wrote: post #7

I suspect the audience of people who really like Cards Against Humanity leans towards people who like being "politically incorrect", because the card game often inspires people to be incredibly offensive. It seems likely that their audience includes lots of 4channers, shitlords, extremists, racists, or any other group of people known to be generally offensive. By making moves like this, they're showing everyone else…

> Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents.

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Re: Cards Against Humanity Redistributes Your Wealth

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Post by owenversteeg »

Anyone else want to discuss the wealth metric they created? That's fascinating to me, with just a handful of datapoints they were able to estimate people's income fairly effectively IMO.

The biggest 3 points were census information from addresses (median income/percentage below poverty line), race/gender/education plus BLS statistics, and occupation (combined with median income for that job from BLS.)

Re: Cards Against Humanity Redistributes Your Wealth

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Post by petercampanelli »

jquery wrote: post #44
FLGMwt wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$15 is a roughly a single meal. Are we suggesting that $15 spent towards entertainment is exceptional or excessive for anyone below middle-class, ? If that's true, than surely we're worse off than we're all aware of.

If $1000 is life changing money for you, you have no business spending $15 on a lottery ticket, unless you are terrible at managing money, which might have something more to do with their situation more than living in the richest nation on Earth.

You're casting so much judgement here. Anyone can spend money on whatever they choose, just like the recipients can spend the $1000 however they like. We have no business criticizing these people.

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Post by mberning »

djsumdog wrote: post #48
mberning wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At a restaurant. Which you really shouldn't be indulging in very often or at all if $1000 is a major boon to your life.

When everything is going to shit, people are in the hospital and you barely have enough food stamps to feed your kids ... You can go to a movie. Are you going to really fault someone for that, or taking their partner to a restaurant, using what little they have, to just try and forget how bad things are for a few hours?! It's not like they can just stop being poor.

I don't begrudge anybody their small pleasures in life. I also think they can do what they want with their money.

But, when the topic of wealth redistribution comes up I do start to have a lot more questions about what people want to do with the money. After all, it's not their money. They didn't earn it. Somebody else did. I think it's pretty fair to at least have the conversation. I absolutely hate the "helpless poor people" trope and the idea that if they just had more money everything would be better. How often do good and well meaning ideas have horrible and long lasting consequences that were not intended.

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Post by throwawaycloud »

mberning wrote: post #33
geofft wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, you're not "that poor", if by that phrase you mean that $15 is a life-or-death decision for you, and every last cent goes toward survival. But there's a large distance between that and having enough money to fund every level on Maslow's hierarchy, and there's a larger distance between even that and not noticing a $15 expenditure at all. Maybe they have a budget for things that make life worth living, things other…

Maybe they have a budget for that kind of stuff. Maybe they don't. Based on personal experience growing up in actual poverty I would bet most do not. I certainly didn't. And neither did most of the people in my life. It's really no different than buying smokes by the pack or 20oz sodas at the gas station. Many people can easily come up with the money to buy these things, even people that are perpetually "broke". But…

Ever make chicken? 3lbs of chicken is $15 alone ($3.59/lb x 4 lbs, about 1lb of liquid). That's not a lot of food.

Oh, hmm.. How about hamburger then? Same story.

$1k would absolutely be a lifechanger. I'd be able to go get my colonoscopy that I desperately need, or be able to at least go to a therapist to help get over my fear of needles in preparation for that.

You bet I'll drop $15 on CAH. I'm not going to deny myself entertainment just because there are other things I need.

Look at it this way: $15 is a one-time expense. Health insurance is $400/mo.

And I'm not even that poor. I'd rather the $1k go to someone who needs it more than me.

Re: Cards Against Humanity Redistributes Your Wealth

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Post by jquery »

FLGMwt wrote: post #31

Oh hey, on top of the prevalent skepticism and detractions in the current discussion, I'll just throw out that, on its own, this is objectively a Good Thing. I won't dismiss the fact that this is good PR for CAH, but it is still morally-motivated positive impact for some fixed number of people. A company took some profit they had and exceptionally distributed to some of their less fortunate customers. Don't immediate…

Their whole schtick is that they did some private charity work and it went great so FUCK DRUMPF AND FUCK CAPITALISM. And you’re asking people not to talk about the main point of their shtick? I won’t argue what they did isn’t good but literally thousands of charities do this every day.

Re: Cards Against Humanity Redistributes Your Wealth

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Post by deadbunny »

Helloworldboy wrote: post #14

How can such a boring game have such a large following? The gimmick wears out in like 15 minutes. Edit: these downvotes. To think I pegged HN for a community with good taste in card games.

People in liking different things shocker. More at 11.

Re: Cards Against Humanity Redistributes Your Wealth

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FLGMwt wrote: post #31

Oh hey, on top of the prevalent skepticism and detractions in the current discussion, I'll just throw out that, on its own, this is objectively a Good Thing. I won't dismiss the fact that this is good PR for CAH, but it is still morally-motivated positive impact for some fixed number of people. A company took some profit they had and exceptionally distributed to some of their less fortunate customers. Don't immediate…

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throwawaycloud wrote: post #46
ridgewell wrote: post #12

>We excluded all Canadians. They already have universal healthcare. They’ll be fine. Yikes. I certainly got a laugh out of that, then an overly reflective period of what I'm grateful for, especially the benefits afforded from being north of the border.

Throwaway for privacy. I've been concealing cancer symptoms for years, mostly because I can't afford to get a colonoscopy. Even the cheapest clinics run well over $1k, which is totally out of reach. The secondary reason is an unhealthy fear of needles and a desire to live without a colostomy bag. I know I need to see a psychiatrist or a therapist to help me get over these irrational fears, but you guessed it: I can't…

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Re: Cards Against Humanity Redistributes Your Wealth

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Post by mikekchar »

mberning wrote: post #6

Wait... all these people paid $15 to begin with? Are you really that poor if you can flip out $15 for any little thing that comes along.

You may be suffering from the same thing I did: not understanding what this is about. I recommend taking a look at the FAQ (which is relatively difficult to get to from the original article): https://www.cardsagainsthumanitysavesamerica.com/#faq

It's a "complicated promotion" and in this phase they are redistributing wealth to the poorest of the group who paid -- not to the poorest people in the country. I had originally thought that people were signing up with the hopes of getting a payback -- some kind of horrible poorest person wins the pot kind of game. But this is literally, "Pay us $15 and we will do something crazy with it". So far the other things they have done is bought up land to try to interfere with Trump's wall between the US and Mexico (and built a trebuchet), and set up a "good news only podcast" (and sent out stickers).

Most people in the US have discretionary spending even if they are poor. $15 to participate in crazy stunts to "save America"? Certainly there are people who can not afford that, but I don't think that was ever the point.

Edit: Is $1000 potentially life changing for people who are not in abject poverty. I think point is: yes. They point out that half of Americans do not have any emergency money at all. So you don't even need to be in poverty to be living hand to mouth. Will $1000 realistically change that? Clearly not. But the whole thing is a bit tongue in cheek.

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