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Drinking 3-4 Cups of Coffee Is “More Likely to Benefit Health Than to Harm It”

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Re: Drinking 3-4 Cups of Coffee Is “More Likely to Benefit Health Than to Harm It”

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

nasredin wrote: post #47
QML wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought coffee’s actually an appetite suppressant than stimulant.

A strong coffee (e.g. via a Moka pot) should send you to the bathroom too.

Would you have any sources on that?

I casually looked into that claim in the past and read that coffee is as strong a diuretic as pure water.

Re: Drinking 3-4 Cups of Coffee Is “More Likely to Benefit Health Than to Harm It”

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Post by retroafroman »

d_burfoot wrote: post #52

In about 100 years, people will realize that this kind of research doesn't actually work. Here's the problem: the human body is an immensely complex system, with millions of factors influencing its status and well-being. Untangling these factors correctly and producing an accurate and sophisticated statistical theory of the body would require a comparably large number of parameters - on the order of millions or more.…

I'm definitely an amateur at understanding biology, but having studied engineering; the inputs and outputs of the human body vary so widely that I have a hard time narrowing down one input to corresponding to one result.

When you think about the air you breathe, to the variety of things you ate (plus the additional microbiomes that inhabit the food, your skin, your gut, etc) it seems like we are just barely really understanding what the intakes to the body are.

Edit: here's a great point to start to think about it: https://youtu.be/bYOIhmZ0Osg?t=41m49s -watch for 10m

Re: Drinking 3-4 Cups of Coffee Is “More Likely to Benefit Health Than to Harm It”

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Post by pixie_ »

touristtam wrote: post #60
pixie_ wrote: post #53

There's enough anecdotal evidence here to fuel a study in it of itself. I'm surprised there isn't an app out there where you can opt into any number of studies. Surely there's potential for an app like this.. Anyone want to get together and build it? * edit - maybe it's just an app where you like 'Facebook' all your medical history, and post daily diets, health issues like headaches, acne, etc... All the data is publ…

Open for massive fraud as an elective system which might be very damaging for the endeavor itself and could completely discredit it.

We have an open position for you on the team to use machine learning to root out fraud ;)

Re: Drinking 3-4 Cups of Coffee Is “More Likely to Benefit Health Than to Harm It”

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Post by ezequiel-garzon »

Exo_Tartarus wrote: post #23

I'm going to go out on a limb here and state a theory I've been considering for a while that could explain these coffee health benefit results... The liquids I and everyone else consumes can be placed in two classes: pure water and everything else. When I'm not drinking pure water, my drink of choice is usually coffee, of which I drink about 3 cups a day. Now let's think of the alternative non water drinks out there.…

What about sugar-free sodas?

Re: Drinking 3-4 Cups of Coffee Is “More Likely to Benefit Health Than to Harm It”

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Post by throw_away2 »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #61
nasredin wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A strong coffee (e.g. via a Moka pot) should send you to the bathroom too.

Would you have any sources on that? I casually looked into that claim in the past and read that coffee is as strong a diuretic as pure water.

Perhaps they mean as a laxative rather than as a diuretic.

Re: Drinking 3-4 Cups of Coffee Is “More Likely to Benefit Health Than to Harm It”

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Post by chucky_z »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #61
nasredin wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A strong coffee (e.g. via a Moka pot) should send you to the bathroom too.

Would you have any sources on that? I casually looked into that claim in the past and read that coffee is as strong a diuretic as pure water.

there's.... i believe there is enough anecdotal evidence to state with a reasonable confidence level that coffee makes you poop.

Re: Drinking 3-4 Cups of Coffee Is “More Likely to Benefit Health Than to Harm It”

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Post by fabatka »

d_burfoot wrote: post #52

In about 100 years, people will realize that this kind of research doesn't actually work. Here's the problem: the human body is an immensely complex system, with millions of factors influencing its status and well-being. Untangling these factors correctly and producing an accurate and sophisticated statistical theory of the body would require a comparably large number of parameters - on the order of millions or more.…

I completely agree. Also, with a pop-science-y title like this, how can anyone take the article seriously?

Re: Drinking 3-4 Cups of Coffee Is “More Likely to Benefit Health Than to Harm It”

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Post by e9 »

We all have gene in our liver for making enzyme that breaks down caffeine. Due to small genetic differences, some of us have enzyme that breaks down caffeine quickly and others that breaks it down slowly. If you win genetic lottery and produce enzyme that breaks down caffeine fast then you flush out caffeine and end up reaping benefits of antioxidants found in coffee beans. If you have enzyme that breaks down caffeine slowly, caffeine hangs around longer causing health problems. That's all there is.

Re: Drinking 3-4 Cups of Coffee Is “More Likely to Benefit Health Than to Harm It”

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Post by Nydhal »

Exo_Tartarus wrote: post #23

I'm going to go out on a limb here and state a theory I've been considering for a while that could explain these coffee health benefit results... The liquids I and everyone else consumes can be placed in two classes: pure water and everything else. When I'm not drinking pure water, my drink of choice is usually coffee, of which I drink about 3 cups a day. Now let's think of the alternative non water drinks out there.…

Here's another theory. Coffee makes you move more. Moving is healthy. Think of how coffee gets people off their desks to get it and also because of the caffeine and the need to urinate after. Its unlike other drinks as people don't carry it in bottles, it requires more movement. Maybe the sedentary lifestyle is what's killing people.

Re: Drinking 3-4 Cups of Coffee Is “More Likely to Benefit Health Than to Harm It”

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Post by Nydhal »

d_burfoot wrote: post #52

In about 100 years, people will realize that this kind of research doesn't actually work. Here's the problem: the human body is an immensely complex system, with millions of factors influencing its status and well-being. Untangling these factors correctly and producing an accurate and sophisticated statistical theory of the body would require a comparably large number of parameters - on the order of millions or more.…

In some sense traditional medicine or traditional\religious healthy habits (I'm thinking something like kashrut) has way larger sample since it's been practiced for millenia and its populations still survived enough to transmit them to offspring. If grandma made it long enough to teach the grand kids some old traditions there's probably some merit to some of them.
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