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Let's not pretend that RT is any more trustworthy than infowars.
The source of news was Russian department of defence. So it's official.
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But the potential price is more suicide attacks in the streets of Paris or London. Not a concern of the SDF of course (and who could blame them?), but what outcome is more desirable from a western point of view is less obvious to me.
Then maybe the west should actually check who crosses their borders instead of just waving anyone through if they come from a boat And increase their intelligence resources and not be afraid to act on radical preachers
Border control is a huge focus! It's also an almost impossible task, which is not something people want to hear.
It'd be easier to claim western countries spend too much on controlling their borders simply because all that cash doesn't seem to have had the desired effect, judging by popular opinion.
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Those coalition planes should be bombing them and not guiding them to safety lol I don`t get this thread. Majority of people think that this was totally ok. I guess until next 9/11, or London, or Paris or whatever happen (hope not) and then it is again ok to bomb the country half randomly and drone strike wherever the current administration wants.
I don't get this thread either. Why the bloodlust? Isn't it better for 100 guilty people to walk free than for 1 innocent person to be harmed? If not, when did that stop being the case?
And btw, I am against NATO interventions all around the world. My own country was bombed by NATO (Yugoslavia), I know how it is having bombs drop on your city for months where they killed thousands of civilians in the middle of Europe. But if you pretend that you want to destroy ISIS, this was the clearest target of the whole war in Syria.
And I don`t buy it that women are by default innocent. Especially this kind of woman with this background. Yes, probably some were, but more probably many also did crimes. There were armed women who were doing bad things mentioned in the same article.
I mean, I am all against any war. Against foreign interventions all over the world where they politics see fit. But I am also sick of seeing the same interventionists killing civilians time and time again and then letting this convoy pass by the excuse that there were some innocent people there maybe. They don`t stand by their logic, that's all. Anyhow, they could have organized any other type of attack using heavy ground machinery and air support when they located (by the mentioned drones) parts of the group (after the convoy split) that is 100% (or let`s say 99%) terrorist that would mitigate civilian casualties. But whatever. Not that I have high hopes for NATO doing the right thing.
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this video can give you few hints. i have struggled to find it, seems like rt videos are penalized. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mliCy4GN2w here is text version http://www.vrenergie.com/index.php/fuel-qxxi-centuryq/2329-b...
Seems just lazy propaganda. There are multiple videos of ISIS forces using Humvees captured from the Iraqi army[1], so the idea that Humvees = US is silly. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/27vlvw/comp...
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this video can give you few hints. i have struggled to find it, seems like rt videos are penalized. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mliCy4GN2w here is text version http://www.vrenergie.com/index.php/fuel-qxxi-centuryq/2329-b...
Let's not pretend that RT is any more trustworthy than infowars.
Basically, either you let ISIS escape, or you completely flatten the city to get rid of them. I mean considering the way Raqqa looks now, I'm not sure it was effective in preventing much destruction, but if you have an opportunity to save a large city, you try to.
I'll tell you what I believe: The U.S. has been in collusion with Saudi Arabia and their ISIS henchmen from the beginning, trying to use them as a tool to force a regime change in Syria and Iraq. This is why ISIS has been treated with kids gloves for the duration of the campaign, first in Iraq and later in Syria. It was shown that the supposedly intense bombing campaigns were mysteriously ineffective for years, both the British and the American ones, ISIS again and again happened upon stashes of cash and weapons, etc. etc. Too many weird coincidences to mention.
This will not be a difficult theory to consider for anyone with knowledge of history and the American modus operandi in foreign policy. But somehow you're a crackpot to challenge the official story. The mainstream media has been shown to selectively present news to support the official line, and occasionally lie, but people reel at the thought that there is another very different side to the story they get told. Government sponsored covert propaganda campaigns are exposed every other week, but people still buy the 'grassroots' reports from Twitter et al. It's sad but unforunately it may just be human nature to tend towards believing authority.
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But the potential price is more suicide attacks in the streets of Paris or London. Not a concern of the SDF of course (and who could blame them?), but what outcome is more desirable from a western point of view is less obvious to me.
You really think murdering women and children will lead to less suicide attacks in the future? That kind of short-sighted inhumane idiocy is exactly what keeps fueling the whole mess!
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The source of news was Russian department of defence. So it's official.
If you weren't the person who posted the link to RT in the first place I would have laughed at your witty sarcasm.
It was so nice of United States to make sure none of ISIS fighters were harmed. It is just unbelievable. They make deals with terrorists.
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Seems just lazy propaganda. There are multiple videos of ISIS forces using Humvees captured from the Iraqi army[1], so the idea that Humvees = US is silly. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/27vlvw/comp...
Obviously you didn't watch the video, since when ISIL fighters use Caugar Armored Vehicles? Even Iraqi army didnt have these.
No, but he Iraqi army has plenty of Badger Armored Vehicles which is based on the Cougar and visually quite similar.