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Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by flukus »

grzm wrote: post #57
simonsarris wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't know anyone was afraid of dietary cholesterol in 2017. Remember, I'm advocating: > Pasteurized Whole Milk, Pasteurized Cream, Live Active Cultures Over: > Filtered water, soy protein isolate, maltodextrin, high oleic sunflower oil, isomaltulose, canola oil, rice starch, oat fiber, isomaltooligosaccharide, soy lecithin, potassium chloride, calcium phosphate, magnesium phosphate, natural & artificial flavors,…

> I copied and pasted from their website, they capitalized everything, not me Feel free to lowercase it yourself. HN readers will appreciate it!

Here you go:

filtered water, soy protein isolate, maltodextrin, high oleic sunflower oil, isomaltulose, canola oil, rice starch, oat fiber, isomaltooligosaccharide, soy lecithin, potassium chloride, calcium phosphate, magnesium phosphate, natural & artificial flavors, dipotassium phosphate, salt, choline chloride, gellan gum, sodium ascorbate, dl-alpha-tocopheryl acetate, ferrous gluconate, zinc sulfate, d-calcium pantothenate, niacinamide, sucralose, thiamine hydrochloride, copper gluconate, manganese sulfate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, vitamin a palmitate, riboflavin, chromium chloride, biotin, folic acid, sodium molybdate, sodium selenite, phytonadione, potassium iodide, vitamin b12, vitamin d. contains: soy

Vim v$~ FTW!

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by grzm »

simonsarris wrote: post #60
grzm wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I copied and pasted from their website, they capitalized everything, not me Feel free to lowercase it yourself. HN readers will appreciate it!

Ah you're right. Sublime text can do it in a second anyway.

Thanks!

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by ThrowawayR2 »

simonsarris wrote: post #56
ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why not just mix skyr and heavy cream if that's the kind of meal you want? Requires refrigeration, not shelf stable, contains lactose, which not everyone can tolerate, contains cholesterol, less convenient than bottles, not vegan, for those who it matters to, and more expensive than the equivalent amount of Soylent to top it all off. And that's without even trying particularly hard to think of reasons. And, for the…

I didn't know anyone was afraid of dietary cholesterol in 2017. Remember, I'm advocating: > Pasteurized Whole Milk, Pasteurized Cream, Live Active Cultures Over: > Filtered water, soy protein isolate, maltodextrin, high oleic sunflower oil, isomaltulose, canola oil, rice starch, oat fiber, isomaltooligosaccharide, soy lecithin, potassium chloride, calcium phosphate, magnesium phosphate, natural & artificial flavors,…

That's the best counterargument you have? "Scary" chemical names? I mean, ... really?

I quite assure you that if I listed all of the compounds of "Pasteurized Whole Milk, Pasteurized Cream, Live Active Cultures, Cream" using standard chemistry nomenclature, the list would look far more intimidating to the average layperson.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by [deleted] »

simonsarris wrote: post #56
ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why not just mix skyr and heavy cream if that's the kind of meal you want? Requires refrigeration, not shelf stable, contains lactose, which not everyone can tolerate, contains cholesterol, less convenient than bottles, not vegan, for those who it matters to, and more expensive than the equivalent amount of Soylent to top it all off. And that's without even trying particularly hard to think of reasons. And, for the…

I didn't know anyone was afraid of dietary cholesterol in 2017. Remember, I'm advocating: > Pasteurized Whole Milk, Pasteurized Cream, Live Active Cultures Over: > Filtered water, soy protein isolate, maltodextrin, high oleic sunflower oil, isomaltulose, canola oil, rice starch, oat fiber, isomaltooligosaccharide, soy lecithin, potassium chloride, calcium phosphate, magnesium phosphate, natural & artificial flavors,…

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Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by ovao »

simonsarris wrote: post #56
ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why not just mix skyr and heavy cream if that's the kind of meal you want? Requires refrigeration, not shelf stable, contains lactose, which not everyone can tolerate, contains cholesterol, less convenient than bottles, not vegan, for those who it matters to, and more expensive than the equivalent amount of Soylent to top it all off. And that's without even trying particularly hard to think of reasons. And, for the…

I didn't know anyone was afraid of dietary cholesterol in 2017. Remember, I'm advocating: > Pasteurized Whole Milk, Pasteurized Cream, Live Active Cultures Over: > Filtered water, soy protein isolate, maltodextrin, high oleic sunflower oil, isomaltulose, canola oil, rice starch, oat fiber, isomaltooligosaccharide, soy lecithin, potassium chloride, calcium phosphate, magnesium phosphate, natural & artificial flavors,…

To be fair to Soylent, many of the ingredients listed are simply vitamin and mineral sources. They have scary-sounding names, but are not scary things.

I'm not convinced your alternative is actually more healthful, nor do I believe it contains the vitamins or minerals you'd need for it to act as a reasonable meal replacement. From a macro perspective at least, I don't see anything particularly wrong with Soylent's product.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by simonsarris »

ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #63
simonsarris wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't know anyone was afraid of dietary cholesterol in 2017. Remember, I'm advocating: > Pasteurized Whole Milk, Pasteurized Cream, Live Active Cultures Over: > Filtered water, soy protein isolate, maltodextrin, high oleic sunflower oil, isomaltulose, canola oil, rice starch, oat fiber, isomaltooligosaccharide, soy lecithin, potassium chloride, calcium phosphate, magnesium phosphate, natural & artificial flavors,…

That's the best counterargument you have? "Scary" chemical names? I mean, ... really? I quite assure you that if I listed all of the compounds of "Pasteurized Whole Milk, Pasteurized Cream, Live Active Cultures, Cream" using standard chemistry nomenclature, the list would look far more intimidating to the average layperson.

My argument isn't scary chemical names. It's that you face a bad omega 3:6 ratio. I already said that in the first comment.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by quicklime »

simonsarris wrote: post #47

Serious questions for people that drink this stuff: My breakfast is often Siggi's 4% skyr (thick yogurt): http://siggisdairy.com/product/plain-whole-milk-24oz/ Plus Organic valley heavy cream: https://www.organicvalley.coop/products/cream/ Ususally about 300g + 100g, then sometimes some granola (oats, almonds, sometimes honey), for body. Soylent is: * 37g carb * 21g fats * 20g protein What I'm eating is much healthie…

There's more to good nutrition than just the ratios of carbs/fats/protein - you also have to think about getting the right amounts of each micronutrient. Once you do, it becomes a lot harder to get a good balance than just mixing 2 or 3 ingredients.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by legostormtroopr »

cal5k wrote: post #19
cisanti wrote: post #17

Are that kind of drinks popular in North America and if, then why..? I'm having problems understanding why would anyone want to consume something like that.

Well here's an example - I'm having jaw surgery tomorrow and will be on a liquid diet for a week. I stocked my fridge up with Soylent so that I'd have something decent-tasting and relatively nutritious to drink while I'm feeling like garbage. I also will make shakes, but sometimes soylent is just easier.

Why not buy a commercially made meal replacement product that has been on the market for decades and is endorsed by nursing and medical professions and is used in hospitals?

Its not like no one had ever done meal-replacement foods before Soylent came along. Its not new, its not cheaper, its not as well regulated, its not as flavorful.

Seriously, why would you buy Soylent (which has had numerous beta 'failures') over a something like Ensure/

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by [deleted] »

simonsarris wrote: post #47

Serious questions for people that drink this stuff: My breakfast is often Siggi's 4% skyr (thick yogurt): http://siggisdairy.com/product/plain-whole-milk-24oz/ Plus Organic valley heavy cream: https://www.organicvalley.coop/products/cream/ Ususally about 300g + 100g, then sometimes some granola (oats, almonds, sometimes honey), for body. Soylent is: * 37g carb * 21g fats * 20g protein What I'm eating is much healthie…

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Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Post by tree_of_item »

simonsarris wrote: post #56
ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why not just mix skyr and heavy cream if that's the kind of meal you want? Requires refrigeration, not shelf stable, contains lactose, which not everyone can tolerate, contains cholesterol, less convenient than bottles, not vegan, for those who it matters to, and more expensive than the equivalent amount of Soylent to top it all off. And that's without even trying particularly hard to think of reasons. And, for the…

I didn't know anyone was afraid of dietary cholesterol in 2017. Remember, I'm advocating: > Pasteurized Whole Milk, Pasteurized Cream, Live Active Cultures Over: > Filtered water, soy protein isolate, maltodextrin, high oleic sunflower oil, isomaltulose, canola oil, rice starch, oat fiber, isomaltooligosaccharide, soy lecithin, potassium chloride, calcium phosphate, magnesium phosphate, natural & artificial flavors,…

> I didn't know anyone was afraid of dietary cholesterol in 2017.

You didn't know, or you don't think they should be? The jury is still out on dietary cholesterol, and there are plenty of people, some on this very forum, who consider it a health hazard.

I'm aware of recent research suggesting it isn't all that bad, but there's no telling if that's going to be reversed as well in a couple of years.

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