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Bootstrap 4 Beta 2

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Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2

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Post by aacook »

dannytatom wrote: post #30
andygcook wrote: post #8

I've been using the Bootstrap 4 beta for a couple weeks building a side project ( https://nanagram.co ) and I must say, it's been great to use. The built in utilities for responsive views and spacing are especially useful. Made optimizing the homepage for multiple screen sizes super fast and not painful at all. The Beta 1 had pretty good documentation and seemed pretty mature as well. Looking forward to upgrading to…

You have a f` floating on your landing page, under the photo next to "Never miss a photo"

That was totally my bad. Thanks for the heads up. The f` has been nuked.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2

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Post by aacook »

ian0 wrote: post #47
andygcook wrote: post #8

I've been using the Bootstrap 4 beta for a couple weeks building a side project ( https://nanagram.co ) and I must say, it's been great to use. The built in utilities for responsive views and spacing are especially useful. Made optimizing the homepage for multiple screen sizes super fast and not painful at all. The Beta 1 had pretty good documentation and seemed pretty mature as well. Looking forward to upgrading to…

That is such a lovely service.

The best side benefit so far is probably how it's getting Grandkids to visit their Grandparents more often. My fiance and I visited my future Grandma-in-law on the day her photos were delivered. They made plans to get together for breakfast monthly now. Good vibes!

Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2

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Post by acdha »

headcanon wrote: post #15
fbonetti wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question: why? Why would you roll your own buttons, headers, footers, modals, panels, grid system, and alerts, which all respond responsively, when you could just take a framework off the shelf and start being productive immediately?

It depends on what you're doing. Kitchen-sink frameworks like Bootstrap are great for building tools that don't require a lot of customization of the UI, generally things like internal tools. But for user-facing stuff, designers and PMs want to tweak everything about the interface, and by the time you're done, you've rewritten most of the CSS and you actually spent more effort doing so than had you just written the C…

I think the origin point would have been better expressed with that nuance: if you have the budget, staff (design, dev, QA), and need to customize everything, rolling your own is probably best.

Frameworks are for the 99% of projects where not all of those are true. I’ve had good results limiting gratuitous changes that way: “do we want to pay to change this and test all of our supported browsers/accessibility/RTL?” is a lot better than “No”.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2

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Post by sbuttgereit »

andygcook wrote: post #8

I've been using the Bootstrap 4 beta for a couple weeks building a side project ( https://nanagram.co ) and I must say, it's been great to use. The built in utilities for responsive views and spacing are especially useful. Made optimizing the homepage for multiple screen sizes super fast and not painful at all. The Beta 1 had pretty good documentation and seemed pretty mature as well. Looking forward to upgrading to…

I think you and your brother are onto a nice little business (at the very least).

I just sent your link to my wife who literally sends photo packages of our kid to her mother (who does not live independently and lives vicariously through the life of our kid).

I appreciate that you're not fully up-and-running just yet, but from the looks of it, a little operational scaling may be in your future :-)

Best of luck with the venture.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2

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Post by ryanmarsh »

myf01d wrote: post #4

I know I am going to be downvoted so hard, but really it's very easy to build you own css these days, css frameworks look an easy solution for beginning your project but they become a burden gradually as your project grows

You are correct in that css frameworks become a burden but I disagree that building your own is “very easy”. A css framework that works well on most devices and most browsers for a non trivial app is quite a lot of work.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2

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Post by ngsayjoe »

myf01d wrote: post #4

I know I am going to be downvoted so hard, but really it's very easy to build you own css these days, css frameworks look an easy solution for beginning your project but they become a burden gradually as your project grows

That’s exactly what i did lately. I replaced Bootstrap 3 with my own custom CSS after testing out Bootstrap 4.

With flexbox, media queries and SCSS i dont find any need for a CSS framework anymore. My codebase without Bootstrap (and JQuery) feels so light, flexible and maintainable nowadays.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2

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Post by andygcook »

sbuttgereit wrote: post #64
andygcook wrote: post #8

I've been using the Bootstrap 4 beta for a couple weeks building a side project ( https://nanagram.co ) and I must say, it's been great to use. The built in utilities for responsive views and spacing are especially useful. Made optimizing the homepage for multiple screen sizes super fast and not painful at all. The Beta 1 had pretty good documentation and seemed pretty mature as well. Looking forward to upgrading to…

I think you and your brother are onto a nice little business (at the very least). I just sent your link to my wife who literally sends photo packages of our kid to her mother (who does not live independently and lives vicariously through the life of our kid). I appreciate that you're not fully up-and-running just yet, but from the looks of it, a little operational scaling may be in your future :-) Best of luck with t…

Thank you for sharing with your wife and for the positive vibes. We're technically up-and-running with a dozen customer, just haven't really stepped on the gas with growth yet. Want to make sure we work out the rest of the small first kinks before working on growing. Would love to have your wife sign up if she's interested and doesn't feel like sending photo packages manually anymore. Feel free to have her reach out to me - andygcook [at] gmail [dot] com with any questions too.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2

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Post by cocktailpeanuts »

kbenson wrote: post #26
myf01d wrote: post #4

I know I am going to be downvoted so hard, but really it's very easy to build you own css these days, css frameworks look an easy solution for beginning your project but they become a burden gradually as your project grows

Really it's very easy to build your own web application framework these days, existing web application frameworks look an easy solution for beginning your project but they become a burden gradually as your project grows. Really it's very easy to build your own database software these days, database servers look an easy solution for beginning your project but they become a burden gradually as your project grows. Reall…

> Really it's very easy to build your own database software these days

> Really it's very easy to build your own car these days

Wow really? Hold my beer while I go build some car and a database! You learn something new every day!

Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2

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Post by chuckdries »

andygcook wrote: post #8

I've been using the Bootstrap 4 beta for a couple weeks building a side project ( https://nanagram.co ) and I must say, it's been great to use. The built in utilities for responsive views and spacing are especially useful. Made optimizing the homepage for multiple screen sizes super fast and not painful at all. The Beta 1 had pretty good documentation and seemed pretty mature as well. Looking forward to upgrading to…

Compress your images or something. I'm on gigabit and the page is still taking forever to load.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2

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Post by chuckdries »

czep wrote: post #49

Is modular css changing bootstrap adoption? I'm a backend guy so I don't have much experience to develop a sense of large-scale front-end trends. I've used bootstrap since early v3 in various places and usually found it time-saving, easy to build responsively, and fairly easy to customize. However, just as frameworks like angular and libraries like react are "componentizing" the front end and replacing general purpos…

Taking advantage of what bootstrap has to offer requires writing your page structure with it in mind. It's both a method of structuring HTML and a CSS framework. I suppose you could pull out and compartmentalize certain specific features, but in my mind the core of bootstrap is the grid and component system, and those are pretty heavily tied together.
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