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“Anti-perks”: what our startup doesn't want in our office

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Something that stuck out for me: > "Don’t get me wrong — Even has plenty of perks. Our team is offered paid vacation time (with a minimum number of days off)" Is paid vacation time really a perk? Is vacation time usually unpaid in the US or something? Or maybe the perk is the minimum number of days off?

In the US the employer is under NO obligation to provide vacation time, period. Paid, or otherwise.

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post #33

"I’m sure having a pet visit the office once would be a treat, but every day quickly can become a burden on the team." Would people who are burdened by an office dog please share your experiences?

We have a dog friendly office and it drives me crazy sometimes. One dog is fine but when you get them in pairs they like to play. And having a dog wrestling 4 feet away from you is distracting.

I like dogs and I will make it a point to befriend the ones in the office but at some point it becomes disruptive.

Re: “Anti-perks”: what our startup doesn't want in our office

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Something that stuck out for me: > "Don’t get me wrong — Even has plenty of perks. Our team is offered paid vacation time (with a minimum number of days off)" Is paid vacation time really a perk? Is vacation time usually unpaid in the US or something? Or maybe the perk is the minimum number of days off?

It's a major perk in the US. Vacation time is basically reserved for management or C-Suite folks, especially if it's paid.

Re: “Anti-perks”: what our startup doesn't want in our office

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post #9

this place sounds like a nightmare to work at. no drinking, anti dog policies, no thanks.

Imagine how normal work places feel like to people who don't drink, are introverts and don't like to be greeted by dogs all the time.

I wouldn't call an office with drinks and dogs normal, not in most parts of the country.

Re: “Anti-perks”: what our startup doesn't want in our office

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post #34

I wonder if they allow employees to expense lunch on the town, as opposed to paying for catering. I believe Snap Inc. works with local eateries to provide free food for employees, e.g.

Why can't they just pay more? I feel like one of the primary things I want a salary for is meals.

Perks have the advantage of being pre-tax.

So if you get $10 worth of perk (assuming it's something you'd buy anyway), it only actually costs you somewhere between $5-8 depending on your tax bracket.

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I were runnning a similar company I would try to find out if a balance could be struck with structured "pet days" and "no pet days" ... I wonder if even that would be too uncomfortable though, for people who really fear/despise pets.

It's not just "fear" or "despise" - if you're allergic to pets, you're mandating that some of your employees work from home on those days. If you're okay with that, might as well let the pet owners work from home, no?

Just "those days" may well not be good enough. I have fairly bad cat allergies. I can feel it after just a few minutes in a room where a cat _was_.

Re: “Anti-perks”: what our startup doesn't want in our office

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post #36

Thank you for not allowing pets. I both dislike and am allergic to dogs, and it annoys me when people think it's no big deal to bring their dog into the office. This is not your home, this is a professional workspace that we all share.

Tangentially unrelated, with all the kids with strong peanut alergies, what's going to happen in 10 years--will offices ban peanuts and peanut based foods?

We informally had a dog policy at our old office, which was an offshoot location. I'd bring my dogs in, until we hired a woman who had grown up in an area of the world where wild dogs were a real problem, and was deathly afraid of them. My co-workers loved having them in the office, but where you work should provide an environment where everyone can do their best, and given dogs weren't germaine to our business, it was best they were left at home from that day forward.

Re: “Anti-perks”: what our startup doesn't want in our office

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Pet-friendly offices: I’m sure having a pet visit the office once would be a treat, but every day quickly can become a burden on the team.

Disagree, given the observation that pets (provided they're well-behaved, are well-groomed etc) reduce stress and promote empathy. It's just a question of measure - somewhere between "once" and "every day" there are these notions of "once in a while" or "from time to time". Which I suspect would be optimal, for this particular indulgence.

Re: “Anti-perks”: what our startup doesn't want in our office

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post #63

Something that stuck out for me: > "Don’t get me wrong — Even has plenty of perks. Our team is offered paid vacation time (with a minimum number of days off)" Is paid vacation time really a perk? Is vacation time usually unpaid in the US or something? Or maybe the perk is the minimum number of days off?

It's a major perk in the US. Vacation time is basically reserved for management or C-Suite folks, especially if it's paid.

I don't think this is completely correct, but maybe I've experienced life in a bubble.

Many people certainly do not get PTO, in particular retail workers and non salaried employees. I don't believe I have a single friend who is salaried and who does not receive some kind of PTO. For example, public school teachers get paid time off in addition to summer break (where they are generally not paid).

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