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Re: What a Programmer Sees When He Watches Inception

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Post by ardit33 »

ilovecomputers wrote: post #44
forkandwait wrote: post #7

Inception also understands "Big Oh" ideas -- when you are looping inside the third level down, you have 10 seconds on the outside giving you 10^3 seconds on the inside. (EDIT: a single "tick" in one level allows for 20 or so "ticks" at the next level of dreaming, because of extra brain capacity during sleep.) Hehe -- I loved the movie...

Except the human brain doesn't have the capacity to process so fast that seconds turns into years. None the less, the movie was entertaining and I'm just gonna leave it there. I know movie logic shouldn't be a comparison to real world logic, but the geek in me can't help but point out illogical happenings in the film.

in real life dreams are very short. Minutes 1-5. And they feel a lot longer. We can dream a lot 1-5 spinets withing one hour, and they feel like hours.

Hence you see your dream to shift from one place, to the other. Here is a very good NOVA documentary on netflix about it: http://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/What_Are_Dreams_Nova/70129639...

Re: What a Programmer Sees When He Watches Inception

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Post by ilovecomputers »

ardit33 wrote: post #61
ilovecomputers wrote: post #44

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Except the human brain doesn't have the capacity to process so fast that seconds turns into years. None the less, the movie was entertaining and I'm just gonna leave it there. I know movie logic shouldn't be a comparison to real world logic, but the geek in me can't help but point out illogical happenings in the film.

in real life dreams are very short. Minutes 1-5. And they feel a lot longer. We can dream a lot 1-5 spinets withing one hour, and they feel like hours. Hence you see your dream to shift from one place, to the other. Here is a very good NOVA documentary on netflix about it: http://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/What_Are_Dreams_Nova/70129639...

I'm referring to turning minutes into decades. I doubt the brain has the capacity to process that fast.

Re: What a Programmer Sees When He Watches Inception

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Post by bitwize »

What I thought:

* These dreams are far too cohesive and realistic. Dreams aren't like The Matrix where physics is normal and you do something to it. They're more like weird shit happens and you accept it as normal.

* Dreaming nested 3 levels of recursion deep? Done it, didn't need a sedative.

Re: What a Programmer Sees When He Watches Inception

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Post by CamperBob »

ilovecomputers wrote: post #62
ardit33 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

in real life dreams are very short. Minutes 1-5. And they feel a lot longer. We can dream a lot 1-5 spinets withing one hour, and they feel like hours. Hence you see your dream to shift from one place, to the other. Here is a very good NOVA documentary on netflix about it: http://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/What_Are_Dreams_Nova/70129639...

I'm referring to turning minutes into decades. I doubt the brain has the capacity to process that fast.

As long as it has the capacity to make you think decades are passing, it doesn't matter that they aren't.

Re: What a Programmer Sees When He Watches Inception

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Post by socksy »

javert wrote: post #26
knome wrote: post #10

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I've never understood the animosity towards overloading `they` as a neuter singular pronoun. It doesn't seem to introduce any sort of ambiguity in the language and replaces a whole slurry of fumbling and hackish attempts with a single widely understood syllable. It's damned convenient. Of course, I also hold a disdain for "proper quoting".

The problem is, when a person uses 'they' as a single pronoun, he seems uneducated.

That's interesting, I don't think it makes one seem anymore uneducated than any other piece of correctly used grammar (correct use of the word "one", "none of them is" etc). I wouldn't regard my self as uneducated, having had the privelege to go to a good (if not public/private) school.

By any chance is this one of those quirks of American grammar usage that I've not come across before. The only times where I've seen disapproval of the use of 'they' in that fashion was on the Internet... By any chance is this another Ame

Re: What a Programmer Sees When He Watches Inception

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Post by [deleted] »

stingraycharles wrote: post #12
confuzatron wrote: post #3

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Not really, just a callstack four* calls deep. ...just four? Hmm, actually there was multi-threading, using sort of kick-based synchronisation primitive.

actually there was multi-threading, using sort of kick-based synchronisation primitive I think they actually used an actor-based threading model.

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Re: What a Programmer Sees When He Watches Inception

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Post by fizx »

stingraycharles wrote: post #12
confuzatron wrote: post #3

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Not really, just a callstack four* calls deep. ...just four? Hmm, actually there was multi-threading, using sort of kick-based synchronisation primitive.

actually there was multi-threading, using sort of kick-based synchronisation primitive I think they actually used an actor-based threading model.

http://instantrimshot.com/

Re: What a Programmer Sees When He Watches Inception

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Post by pak »

naner wrote: post #56
almost wrote: post #45

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STILL SPOILERS Except they don't, you never see them kill themselves (to exit the dream) or pass through the other levels of dreams, it just cuts straight to the plane. Then at the end he sees his kids, but they're exactly as they appear in his dreams. The top continuing to spin just makes it more explicit. So he never made it out of limbo, when you see him awaking in the plane that's just him creating his own realit…

"Then at the end he sees his kids, but they're exactly as they appear in his dreams. The top continuing to spin just makes it more explicit." Nolan was just doing that to mess with the audience. Yes, the kids were wearing the same clothes, but the top started wobbling right before it cut away. So the audience is left not knowing if he is stuck in limbo or not. It could be interpreted either way. Anyways, an easy way…

I seem to remember some Batman cartoon where Batman realizes he's in a dream because letters shift around oddly while he's trying to read something.

Indeed, I remember from my own dreams that text and numbers behaves oddly (disappears/changes when you look around).

I've also heard this technique is used by lucid dreamers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dream) to figure out that they're dreaming so they can begin to take control of the dream.

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