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so does it mean that to unlock the phone I just have to knock you out and put some sunglasses on you?
How would that be any different than knocking someone out and using their finger for the Touch ID?
Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X
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Re: Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X
#62They say that Face ID falsely recognizes 1 in 1,000,000 people (1 in 50,000 for Touch ID), but it's a lot easier to find the people who look like a given target to unlock their phone. Could be an issue if a mutual friend knows someone who looks enough like you to unlock your phone.
Just because someone "looks like" your target to you doesn't mean they're similar enough to fool whatever algorithms the iPhone is using.
It's 1/1M for strangers. Is it 1/10k for family members? 1/100 for close look-alikes?
The difference between FaceID and TouchID is that you don't have pictures of millions of people's fingerprints available publicly online...
Re: Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X
#63It makes me wonder what legal consequences it's gonna have once this kind of technology is widespread among all smartphones with high identification reliability? What's to stop anybody from combining different biometric identification systems into one device? A combination of Touch ID/Face ID, coupled with some voice recognition and whatever else is possible with biometrics, would probably be able to identify the user with a very high certainty.
Smartphones are also increasingly being turned into an "ID card replacement", even banks have been pushing to use them as a replacement for CC/Debit cards for years.
Which kinda makes sense considering how not every country has ID cards but a vast number of people on this planet have smartphones or at least mobile phones. If one wanted to index the whole human population of planet Earth, it would probably a good start to "just" collect the SIM/IMEI data from all mobile phones in circulation. [0]
It's still a quite dystopian idea of a future, where the identity of a person is solely defined and legitimized by their smartphone/mobile device. Scary thing being: We are closer to this kind of future than it might seem; the aptly named US program "Skynet" uses mobile metadata for targeting selection of drone strikes, has been doing so for quite a while [1]
[0] https://www.gsmaintelligence.com/
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SKYNET_(surveillance_program)
Re: Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just because someone "looks like" your target to you doesn't mean they're similar enough to fool whatever algorithms the iPhone is using.
Yes. So how much do look-alikes change that number? It's 1/1M for strangers. Is it 1/10k for family members? 1/100 for close look-alikes? The difference between FaceID and TouchID is that you don't have pictures of millions of people's fingerprints available publicly online...
Re: Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
so does it mean that to unlock the phone I just have to knock you out and put some sunglasses on you?
How would that be any different than knocking someone out and using their finger for the Touch ID?
Re: Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X
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> Anywhere with hot summers: Sunglasses covering the entire eyes, making it impossible to see if you’re looking at the screen (which is a requirement for FaceID unlock). I wonder if the IR sensor can actually see through the sunglasses?
Might vary with the make of the sunglasses, but I took an IR photo of a colleague wearing sunglasses, and on the photo the glasses were completely transparent. So the FaceID has a good chance to work with sunglasses.
Re: Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X
#67Or do they actually have enough differences that the phone can pick up on, even if people can't tell them apart?
Re: Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X
#68Why'd Apple choose to make the iPhone X out of stainless steel? Titanium, for example, would be half the weight and much more interesting..
Which material is less resistant to scratching? When I saw that shiny edge, I couldn't help but wonder how long it would take to get scuffed up.
Re: Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X
#69Genuine question: will identical twins be able to unlock each others' phones? Or do they actually have enough differences that the phone can pick up on, even if people can't tell them apart?
I've only known one set of identical twins, back in high school, and at first I thought they looked the same. After a while, however, you can recognize the differences. I suspect a phone has enough data points that it sees them as different people.
Re: Face ID is replacing Touch ID on the new iPhone X
#70Genuine question: will identical twins be able to unlock each others' phones? Or do they actually have enough differences that the phone can pick up on, even if people can't tell them apart?