as a consumer I don't know what to believe. It seems like every other day some counter study is released. I gave up and just decided to eat whatever the fuck I want.
It is not too complicated. Eliminate or significantly reduce, bread, potatoes, rice, skim milk, sugary stuff, and cereals from your diet and you will be healthier. At our household we just got rid of bread and starch/carb sides and serve more vegetables to make up for it.
Low-fat diet could kill you, major study shows
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#63Are there things which you can do to reduce your risk of dying earlier than the average person born at the same time as you? Sure.
Are there things which you can do to definitely prolong your life? No.
Death is a statistics game and 1 out of every 1 people will die at some point in their life.
I don't begrudge anyone their interest in dietary/health news, but articles like this get tossed about as justifications for making huge swings in your diet or telling others to do the same. Whenever I see things like this, it strikes me the same as an article like "The next iphone will use transparent, flexible, waterproof plastic".
Like engineering, your diet involves making tradeoffs about the food you input into your body, optimizing for a desired result (in terms of longevity of life, physical capability while alive, enjoyment of food you are eating, scarcity of resources, environmental impact, cruelty to animals - perceived or otherwise, etc.). Also like engineering, there are hard constraints which hem in the possible solution space. Pick your desired result, and make the tradeoffs you want, just don't forget the hard constraint that death is coming, my friends.
Anecdotally, this might be more on-my-mind than usual because my 66-year-old uncle, who eats fish, fresh fruit and vegetables, and jogs every day, collapsed this weekend from a heart attack and is now in the hospital in a coma. I would have said the above regardless, but it's a rather poignant reminder for me at the moment.
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#65You can get glucose through glucogenesis of fats AND proteins not just carbs.
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#66Sigh... this article presents a false dichotomy: you either eat a high fat diet, or you mostly eat refined carbs. Based on dozens of nutritionists I've talked to, focusing on macronutrients as the primary metric is not great. Personally, I look at these things before macros: is it plant-based, is it whole (not refined/processed).
Your body has minimum protein (and types of protein, AKA essential aminos) and fat (and types of fat, essential fatty acids) requirements, or you will die. And that is not a clickbait headline. So hitting those macros are vital even if you are focusing on whole foods
Yeah it is. Well, it would be, if people ever talked about amino acids in headlines.
People die of malnutrition, but good luck finding a population where people dying because they missed out on a specific amino acid is even remotely commonplace. Seriously, to whom does that happen?
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your body has minimum protein (and types of protein, AKA essential aminos) and fat (and types of fat, essential fatty acids) requirements, or you will die. And that is not a clickbait headline. So hitting those macros are vital even if you are focusing on whole foods
> Your body has minimum protein (and types of protein, AKA essential aminos) and fat (and types of fat, essential fatty acids) requirements, or you will die. And that is not a clickbait headline. Yeah it is. Well, it would be, if people ever talked about amino acids in headlines. People die of malnutrition, but good luck finding a population where people dying because they missed out on a specific amino acid is even…
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Your body has minimum protein (and types of protein, AKA essential aminos) and fat (and types of fat, essential fatty acids) requirements, or you will die. And that is not a clickbait headline. Yeah it is. Well, it would be, if people ever talked about amino acids in headlines. People die of malnutrition, but good luck finding a population where people dying because they missed out on a specific amino acid is even…
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2007/05/21/opinion/21planck.html Also, http://m.med-health.net/protein-deficiency-diseases.html
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#69Sigh... this article presents a false dichotomy: you either eat a high fat diet, or you mostly eat refined carbs. Based on dozens of nutritionists I've talked to, focusing on macronutrients as the primary metric is not great. Personally, I look at these things before macros: is it plant-based, is it whole (not refined/processed).
Your body has minimum protein (and types of protein, AKA essential aminos) and fat (and types of fat, essential fatty acids) requirements, or you will die. And that is not a clickbait headline. So hitting those macros are vital even if you are focusing on whole foods
True, but counting macros isn't a practical framework for eating well. Empirically, the US obesity epidemic is not about people missing macronutrient goals; it comes from eating low-quality processed pseudo-foods.
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#70PSA: Death is coming. You are going to die. Your parents are going to die. Your kids are going to die. Everyone you know is going to die. Are there things which you can do to reduce your risk of dying earlier than the average person born at the same time as you? Sure. Are there things which you can do to definitely prolong your life? No. Death is a statistics game and 1 out of every 1 people will die at some point in…
Yes - we're all going to die. Let's not turn this thread into a justification on why it's fruitless to exercise and / or eat cleaner. Individuals do so for a chance at prolonging their life, not a guaranteed extension.