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The World Belongs to Those Who Create

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Re: The World Belongs to Those Who Create

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I think the author point was about what would bring the greatest self-fullfillment. It's not necessarily money. You could be an author or an artist or something else, and have far more fulfillment in life than making 10x working at a job that you're good at but that doesn't bring you as much fulfillment.

Fair enough, but I think it's a simplification of how life really works for most people. For the average person, the choice to become a successful artist isn't a trade off between more money and more satisfaction. If they fail to become successful they will significantly lose out in terms of life's more basic needs, because they won't have enough money. Edit: Don't get me wrong, I would love to agree with OP. But I d…

Actually, I think your comment is a simplification: there absolutely is a trade-off between money and satisfaction. That doesn't mean you have to become a starving artist to increase your satisfaction level - just that prioritising x means compromising on y.

That might mean working a lower-skilled job you can just clock in and out of so you can focus your efforts and time on other things you care about or even just applying your existing specialism in an industry/company that offers you more creative freedom at the expense of some compensation.

Re: The World Belongs to Those Who Create

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We’ve delegated the larger part of our days on earth to consuming what someone else has created. [...] I told him my favorite example of those who “figure it out” are rappers who are criticized for being talentless but still rake in millions. Who cares if they’re talentless (by someone’s standards)? At least they are still CREATING something! Lil Wayne [...] has released 1,747 songs So the idea is make lots of stuff,…

I don't believe this advice is aimed at everyone. There will always be consumers and creators will also inevitably consume. I think the advice is to simply be aware of it and make the decision to consume or create consciously. Find a balance that makes sense to you and aligns with your goals.

I think even great minds have fallen prey to the dopamine treadmills of modern media consumption. The article serves as a nice reminder that we should hop off that treadmill when pertient, for some people, that is forever. For others, maybe just when there is a deadline due.

Re: The World Belongs to Those Who Create

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"We are strangers in this world, and the body is the tomb of the soul, and yet we must not seek to escape by self-murder; for we are the chattels of God who is our herdsman, and without his command we have no right to make our escape. In this life, there are three kinds of men, just as there are three sorts of people who come to the Olympic Games. The lowest class is made up of those who come to buy and sell, the nex…

The latter is a path to doom if followed by a civilisation though. Consumption and contemplation do not bring change and that which does not adapt will perish sooner or later.

That which DOES adapt will also perish sooner or later.

Re: The World Belongs to Those Who Create

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post #53

This is spot on. I share this worldview too. Here are my thoughts I try to live by: 1. Know the type of person you are: We are all creatives and contributors at our core. We all measure our self-worth by how much we give instead of how much we take. This is part of our natural human wiring - to want to belong deservingly to a village of individuals who pull their own weight. So, if you are not creating in your natura…

Can you give a few examples, other than apps, that one could make and reasonably sell ? Maybe it's just me but I don't see any real opportunity in this.

- Grow vegetables - Make tools - Make cakes - Build houses - Build machines - Create gardens

There are many possibilities, you could earn reasonable money from any of above examples starting from small business and not needing to learn that much before you start.

Re: The World Belongs to Those Who Create

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post #27

There's no doubt that incredible amounts of time are "wasted" by all of our quick dopamine hit apps and sites. These are the new opiate of the masses. It seems to be something we are all aware of, and we talk of unplugging. Some do, here and there. It's a constant struggle. The new cigarette / snack food. Just as hard to quit - but we should all at least try.

It'll be interesting to see if these new dopamine fads play out differently. My government puts a lot of effort (money) into making people quit smoking because smokers are extremely expensive on public healthcare. Our goals are 4% by 2025, but even in countries with less of a business case for health, there are still huge campaigns against smoking. Facebook, Reddit, candy crush, instagram and so on aren't really seen…

Which government is yours? Everything I've read is that smokers have lower total healthcare costs since they die earlier and tend to have sudden deaths instead of lingering around using healthcare services.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/03/22/alcohol-...

Re: The World Belongs to Those Who Create

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We’ve delegated the larger part of our days on earth to consuming what someone else has created. [...] I told him my favorite example of those who “figure it out” are rappers who are criticized for being talentless but still rake in millions. Who cares if they’re talentless (by someone’s standards)? At least they are still CREATING something! Lil Wayne [...] has released 1,747 songs So the idea is make lots of stuff,…

One of my favorite lessons from Ira Glass's lecture circuit: ideas come from other ideas. The first step to producing high quality content is surrounding yourself with high quality content.

Exactly. Writers must read 1000s of books, singers must listen to 1000s of songs, and so on. Even for those who don't create additional content, it's impossible to 'consume' culture without creative engagement. Nobody can pour content into his head:

http://www.jfallen.org/wordpress/2015/04/12/the-bucket-or-th...

Re: The World Belongs to Those Who Create

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post #18

This post really resonated with me, deeply. I've been having almost exactly the same thoughts that the author has had, lately. I think a lot of us underestimate how essential creative self-expression is to our well being. I've come to the realization that I don't want to just live a regular life, working and consuming, but rather I want to contribute something creative, of my own creation, to the world. Deep inside,…

Everyone desires to be [a] god. What does a god have the power to do? Create. Naturally everyone wants to create things. When we can't or aren't allowed to create we return towards the other power gods have: the power to destroy. We all want to feel in control. One way to feel that is to create things the other way is to destroy things.

"In the end we will be judged. Not by what we have destroyed...but what we have created!" -- Wilhelm "Deathshead" Strasse, Wolfenstein: The New Order

Re: The World Belongs to Those Who Create

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I think the author is wondering why everyone is not a creator or making an effort at becoming one. IMO the world is never meant to be a place exclusively for creators.

> And the smaller part creating for someone else to make money to continue to consumer what someone else is creating.

So, unbeknownst to yourself, you’re saying the world belongs to someone else, not the creators, and this contradicts with the title of your blog post. Moreover, on one’s own, one cannot create all things that one wants or needs to consume. It would be supernatural. Since time immemorial, people have been creating things for others to consume and consuming what others have been creating. The world is fueled by mutual reliance.

> Why is this an issue?

It’s not unusual for people in marketing to create an issue out of nowhere :)

Re: The World Belongs to Those Who Create

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It'll be interesting to see if these new dopamine fads play out differently. My government puts a lot of effort (money) into making people quit smoking because smokers are extremely expensive on public healthcare. Our goals are 4% by 2025, but even in countries with less of a business case for health, there are still huge campaigns against smoking. Facebook, Reddit, candy crush, instagram and so on aren't really seen…

Which government is yours? Everything I've read is that smokers have lower total healthcare costs since they die earlier and tend to have sudden deaths instead of lingering around using healthcare services. https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/03/22/alcohol-...

Danish, smokers are 8,3 billion DKR more costly a year than non smokers.

http://www.fyens.dk/modules/mobile/article?articleid=3106811

The municipality where I work operates in a 3 billion yearly budget by comparison. So you could run more two and a half cities with 50.000 people for a year for the money smokers cost us.

Re: The World Belongs to Those Who Create

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The latter is a path to doom if followed by a civilisation though. Consumption and contemplation do not bring change and that which does not adapt will perish sooner or later.

That which DOES adapt will also perish sooner or later.

More likely later than otherwise.

The change and adaptations have to be moderated and applied in diverse amounts. No single strategy or philosophy is perfect, but we shouldn't allow a few that are short term beneficial to someone to overly dominate and quash the rest. It is the reason for freedom of speech and other hard won modern freedoms.

This includes allegedly noxious viewpoints. If anything, they serve as a vaccine and a reminder.

(Until the society can remember and recall them in detail at will. Probably not in our lifetimes.)

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