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Because Spain won, jQuery: Novice to Ninja is free for 24 hours

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Re: Because Spain won, jQuery: Novice to Ninja is free for 24 hours

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Post by andrewtj »

jacksoncarter wrote: post #44
babyboy808 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a Sitepoint subscriber for about 5 years now, no they don't.

I've subscribed to their forums with an email that I link to them, so I know for a fact that they spam. They also write articles that are really paid for ads, so the shady meter for sitepoint.com is over toward the orange side of the scale... but, you know... you gotta make money I guess.

Do you have 'Receive Email from Administrators' enabled on your account? I do, which is I assume why they occasionally email offers and is also why I don't consider them spammers. I do agree with you that their content has slipped in recent years though.

Re: Because Spain won, jQuery: Novice to Ninja is free for 24 hours

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Post by _pius »

jdeseno wrote: post #55
JenSheahan wrote: post #41

Hi - It's Jen from SitePoint, here. Glad to hear you guys are enjoying the free copy of jQuery:Novice to Ninja! As for marketing emails, we always include an "unsubscribe" link. SitePoint will never sell your email address or your information. Enjoy the freebie!

A nice checkbox 'send me marketing upates' below the email entry box would be really nice. These days most people appreciate an opt-in experience to opt-out.

I actually think that if you're getting a free book out of it, the publisher should be able to get at least one marketing e-mail to you before you decide not to see any more of their offers ...

Re: Because Spain won, jQuery: Novice to Ninja is free for 24 hours

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Post by modoc »

ElbertF wrote: post #11
aditya wrote: post #4

Just make sure you use a throw-away email address... Sitepoint will spam you like crazy. No such thing as a free lunch :-)

http://10minutemail.com

FWIW: I built 10 Minute Mail and am happy to answer any questions about it.

Re: Because Spain won, jQuery: Novice to Ninja is free for 24 hours

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Post by roel_v »

Sephr wrote: post #23

The email address you enter won't matter. Just put in any valid email address you want and then visit http://sale.sitepoint.com/claimpdf.php?email= with the email address you entered appended to the end.

I guess I'm not making myself popular with saying this, but why is it that when somebody offers something for free you still find yourself compelled to subvert the one thing they ask from you? They give you something you (supposedly) value yet you still try to screw these people out of something that costs you very little. I guess you're going to whine about spam now, but come on, do you really think these people are trawling email addresses for viagra spam by giving away jquery ebooks? And if (I don't know if they will, just if) they ever send you an email, you click the unsubscribe link and off you go. I'd say that this is a small price to pay for (again) something that has at least some value to you.

(This has become a pet peeve of mine since we started offering a free tool that is valuable to many people and for which the commercial alternatives cost thousands of dollars. We ask name and affiliation to get a feel for our user base, people who usually just download and are never heard from again. Most people just fill it in, but every now and then there's some smartass who feels it's necessary to fill in "asdfasdf". I don't do email address validation either, I know it's impossible to check anyway. Show a little respect for what others are GIVING you for FREE).

Re: Because Spain won, jQuery: Novice to Ninja is free for 24 hours

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Post by suninwinter »

baddox wrote: post #24

I gave them my email with a plus sign in it, and I was surprised that the web form accepted it and I got the email. However, clicking on the link they emailed me, which had my email (and therefore the plus sign) in the url, broke their site and just sent me back to TFA. Nice bugs guys.

I bet it will work if you replace the + in the URL with %2B.

Re: Because Spain won, jQuery: Novice to Ninja is free for 24 hours

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Post by crystalis »

_pius wrote: post #62
jdeseno wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A nice checkbox 'send me marketing upates' below the email entry box would be really nice. These days most people appreciate an opt-in experience to opt-out.

I actually think that if you're getting a free book out of it, the publisher should be able to get at least one marketing e-mail to you before you decide not to see any more of their offers ...

Isn't marketing about getting your product in the customer's hands? Your product should be able to handle it from there.

Re: Because Spain won, jQuery: Novice to Ninja is free for 24 hours

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Post by sdh »

roel_v wrote: post #64
Sephr wrote: post #23

The email address you enter won't matter. Just put in any valid email address you want and then visit http://sale.sitepoint.com/claimpdf.php?email= with the email address you entered appended to the end.

I guess I'm not making myself popular with saying this, but why is it that when somebody offers something for free you still find yourself compelled to subvert the one thing they ask from you? They give you something you (supposedly) value yet you still try to screw these people out of something that costs you very little. I guess you're going to whine about spam now, but come on, do you really think these people are…

Your definition of FREE is way off. Having worked for online marketing companies for years, I can tell you that exchanging your email address for something is far from free. You are essentially signup up for a never ending deluge of spam.

Of course, not everyone who asks for your email address is going to sell it to spammers, but enough are that it merits caution.

Re: Because Spain won, jQuery: Novice to Ninja is free for 24 hours

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Post by roel_v »

sdh wrote: post #68
roel_v wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess I'm not making myself popular with saying this, but why is it that when somebody offers something for free you still find yourself compelled to subvert the one thing they ask from you? They give you something you (supposedly) value yet you still try to screw these people out of something that costs you very little. I guess you're going to whine about spam now, but come on, do you really think these people are…

Your definition of FREE is way off. Having worked for online marketing companies for years, I can tell you that exchanging your email address for something is far from free. You are essentially signup up for a never ending deluge of spam. Of course, not everyone who asks for your email address is going to sell it to spammers, but enough are that it merits caution.

Fine if you want to play semantic games, let's say it's not free because they require your email address. How does that make it OK to provide a fake one? The deal is: you get the ebook in return for your email address. Either you take it or leave it, you don't take what is offered and then return nothing. The level of denial and cognitive dissonance in your answer is mind boggling, how can you justify what is plainly breaking your end of the deal on an offer that is already very reasonable?

Re: Because Spain won, jQuery: Novice to Ninja is free for 24 hours

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Post by username3 »

NathanKP wrote: post #27
Sephr wrote: post #23

The email address you enter won't matter. Just put in any valid email address you want and then visit http://sale.sitepoint.com/claimpdf.php?email= with the email address you entered appended to the end.

Their email address validator is broken anyway. It doesn't support host names with subdomains such as foobar@foo.bar.org At least it supports addresses such as foo.bar@foobar.org

And foo.bar+sitepoint@foobar.org.
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