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Re: Vue.js vs. React

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Post by yunyu »

k__ wrote: post #40
nightski wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can do the same with react. Unfortunately with either library you are going to want it for any serious project.

This whole "React is complicated" is a strawman. How is JSX more complicated than any template language? How are Vue components any simpler than React components?

You can't write JSX without a template compiler (how ergonomic is it to hand write a render function?). It's painful to write React components with just a script embed (this might not be important to you, but it's important for newbies coming from jQuery), while Vue lets you get away with HTML attributes and Vue.extend(). Lastly, Vue's style scoping is superior to anything React has to offer.

Re: Vue.js vs. React

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tomduncalf wrote: post #14
kiwee wrote: post #11

Vue is good for simple things. But it do not shines for complex apps and sometime makes it even harder than it should be. React can appears complicated when beginning, but it pays off on complex apps.

This is the impression I get, but I've not got any Vue experience to back it up so it's literally just based on first impressions. I completely agree that React can feel like overkill for simple stuff, but really shines as the apps get more complex - complexity feels a lot more manageable. For example, I built this in-browser Illustrator-inspired site/app using React and couldn't have imagined doing it without (in te…

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Re: Vue.js vs. React

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Post by bastawhiz »

yunyu wrote: post #57
a13n wrote: post #46

You'll see quotes in this thread like "The demand for both React and Vue.js is growing tremendously" thrown around. It's good to check out npm install stats to get an unopinionated comparison. https://npm-stat.com/charts.html?package=react&package=vue&p... In reality, React is downloaded roughly 4-5x more than angular and 7-8x more than Vue. In August so far, React has 75% market share among these three libs. Interes…

Something worth noting is that both Angular and Vue are far more script-embed-directly-into-page friendly (mostly due to templating) compared to React. Almost all React users get it from NPM, while I would expect that the proportion of Angular or Vue users who get them from NPM is lower. I've seen a lot of projects for those two run without any build system (and anecdotally, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who's…

A very large number of people use React in the same way, linking to a cdn.

Re: Vue.js vs. React

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Post by a13n »

throwaway13337 wrote: post #52
a13n wrote: post #46

You'll see quotes in this thread like "The demand for both React and Vue.js is growing tremendously" thrown around. It's good to check out npm install stats to get an unopinionated comparison. https://npm-stat.com/charts.html?package=react&package=vue&p... In reality, React is downloaded roughly 4-5x more than angular and 7-8x more than Vue. In August so far, React has 75% market share among these three libs. Interes…

From the charts, it shows that Vue from 2016 to now well over doubled it's downloads (over 100% growth) while react's only grew by 50%. It can be deceptive when you look at charts that list totals when what you're concerned with is growth rate.

So from 2016 to 2017, React's market share grew from 74.6% to 74.9% while Vue's market share grew from 5.4% to 9.3%.

A more accurate narrative would be that Vue is eating the dying Angular.

Re: Vue.js vs. React

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Post by yunyu »

bastawhiz wrote: post #63
yunyu wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something worth noting is that both Angular and Vue are far more script-embed-directly-into-page friendly (mostly due to templating) compared to React. Almost all React users get it from NPM, while I would expect that the proportion of Angular or Vue users who get them from NPM is lower. I've seen a lot of projects for those two run without any build system (and anecdotally, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who's…

A very large number of people use React in the same way, linking to a cdn.

Could you explain your rationale? I highly doubt that a very large number of people are hand-writing render functions... I personally gave up on React and only picked it up several months later after finding out that using it with just a script embed was exceedingly painful.

Re: Vue.js vs. React

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Post by ziggzagg »

jrs95 wrote: post #56

For what it's worth, I tried Vue first and ended up moving to React and it just seems to click better with me. More/better libraries too. Nothing on the Vue side of things is as good as Material UI.

Vue is heavily dominated by Chinese, there is a ton of MD implementations, but hard to judge. One solid MD implementation in vue is https://vuetifyjs.com/ which is not Chinese.

Re: Vue.js vs. React

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Post by kuschku »

tomduncalf wrote: post #14
kiwee wrote: post #11

Vue is good for simple things. But it do not shines for complex apps and sometime makes it even harder than it should be. React can appears complicated when beginning, but it pays off on complex apps.

This is the impression I get, but I've not got any Vue experience to back it up so it's literally just based on first impressions. I completely agree that React can feel like overkill for simple stuff, but really shines as the apps get more complex - complexity feels a lot more manageable. For example, I built this in-browser Illustrator-inspired site/app using React and couldn't have imagined doing it without (in te…

I’m curious, how did you manage to build a website that claims to work in Chrome, but not in Chromium? In Safari, but not in Firefox?

And worst of all, it actually obviously works in Chromium and Firefox, but you just check the UA.

Works:

    Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/60.0.3112.90 Safari/537.36
Doesn’t work:

    Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Ubuntu Chromium/60.0.3112.90 Chrome/60.0.3112.90 Safari/537.36
I mean, sure, if you want to build a site that relies on ridiculous UA testing, and breaks everywhere, sure.

But not even in the "works best in Netscape" era did people actually intentionally break their pages in browsers where it actually worked. This is a new low. This is completely ridiculous.

Proof: http://i.imgur.com/YlPE77b.jpg Oh, and as you can see, if I spoof the UA in FF; it actually works fine. This is completely bullshit, and I’m sure I’ll never do business with you. This is completely ridiculous, leaving out major browsers (and, for example, over 40% of the desktop browsing market in Germany) intentionally and unnecessarily.

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