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Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by abpavel »

jameskegel wrote: post #37
MollyR wrote: post #34

I'm thinking of switching my business email to protonmail from gmail. Any users like it ? The whole google memo revealed google employees are not as trustworthy as I thought. All the social media talk of blacklists, and inquisition tactics from some of upper management is bad for business. I've already gotten emails from clients asking me to change their business google services to something else (anything else in th…

> google memo revealed google employees are not as trustworthy What made you feel this way, specifically, in the memo?

> blacklists, and inquisition tactics from some of upper management

the memo is just a reference to an episode. i.e. "the memo ordeal"

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by unit91 »

corobo wrote: post #15
koolba wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even better to have someone else buy the gift cards and then hand them off to you in a dark alley. Bonus points if you're both wearing trench coats and fedoras.

"We'll give you 20 bucks if you tell us who you bought these for"

Double bonus points if your coat-clad fedora-wearers aren't in the alley at the same time and use a dead-drop.

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by ebcode »

dsacco wrote: post #30
olegkikin wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's close to being anonymous though. If I give you a random bitcoin address, what are the odds you can identify the owner of it? It's very close to zero.

In practice? The odds are pretty likely. Most people have poor opsec, and you can uniquely identify anyone with fewer than 33 bits of data.

And yet Satoshi Nakamoto still has not been doxxed.

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by blfr »

If you like Proton features and want to move away from Gmail, consider Mailpile[1]. It's almost ready, there's a release candidate and packages for Debian/Ubuntu; it offers to protect your data with a master password like Proton; it supports GPG which with all its problems is still the way to encrypt your emails; and you can run it on your own server. Best of all it's open source and written in Python. You can know exactly what it does with your messages.

Mailpile is an email client (MUA) so you will need a server (MTA). At first you can try it out with your regular ISP, even Gmail. Later you can set up your own server. Setup is a little involved but much less than people tell you and, if you choose a competently run distro, requires very little ongoing maintenance.

With your own server, you can have it working exactly as you like. Export feature? No problem, you have direct access to the maildir, mailbox or the database. Want a catch-all? One switch in the config. You will have little trouble finding a provider who accepts your preferred method of payment, too.

[1] https://www.mailpile.is/

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by dsacco »

ebcode wrote: post #63
dsacco wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In practice? The odds are pretty likely. Most people have poor opsec, and you can uniquely identify anyone with fewer than 33 bits of data.

And yet Satoshi Nakamoto still has not been doxxed.

I said "likely", not "certainly." Satoshi Nakamoto is the exception that proves the rule; part of his infamy is precisely due to the fact that he has not yet identified, which is extraordinary.

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by KirinDave »

MollyR wrote: post #34

I'm thinking of switching my business email to protonmail from gmail. Any users like it ? The whole google memo revealed google employees are not as trustworthy as I thought. All the social media talk of blacklists, and inquisition tactics from some of upper management is bad for business. I've already gotten emails from clients asking me to change their business google services to something else (anything else in th…

I like it but as noted the lack of an exit path makes it scary for a long term business contract.

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by pvg »

vabmit wrote: post #40
blunte wrote: post #32

More "progress" from ProtonMail, while they still provide no way to export emails in bulk. They recommend you forward every individual email or print it. The Export feature has been an open request since before March 2015. Another feature which would give users a way to get their mail out of PM is the ability to check mail from a client like Outlook or Thunderbird. That has been an open feature request since before F…

Try to relax a bit. It is good for your health. :) Both of those features are under development. If you would like to see them sooner rather than later, perhaps you know some great programmers that you could recommend to careers@protonmail.ch? Or, you could share ProtonMail's Careers page: https://protonmail.com/careers ProtonMail is hiring!

Maybe they should also be hiring some sort of customer interaction expert as well.

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by andrewvc »

vabmit wrote: post #40
blunte wrote: post #32

More "progress" from ProtonMail, while they still provide no way to export emails in bulk. They recommend you forward every individual email or print it. The Export feature has been an open request since before March 2015. Another feature which would give users a way to get their mail out of PM is the ability to check mail from a client like Outlook or Thunderbird. That has been an open feature request since before F…

Try to relax a bit. It is good for your health. :) Both of those features are under development. If you would like to see them sooner rather than later, perhaps you know some great programmers that you could recommend to careers@protonmail.ch? Or, you could share ProtonMail's Careers page: https://protonmail.com/careers ProtonMail is hiring!

This is a great example of how not to interact with customers.

Telling a customer who's been waiting on a feature for over a year to relax is just insulting.

I picked Fastmail due to their excellent support reputation, you all could learn from them!

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