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Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by rwc »

usrusr wrote: post #55

Does Disney have more off-brand subsidies like ESPN and Pixar? Without more of that, Disney's amazing brand recognition could turn into a problem for them: because everybody thinks that they know exactly what to expect when they hear "Disney", a Disney-only subscription might feel much more like a monoculuture than one Amazon-only or Netflix-only (assuming those two even go that far towards exclusivity, which might b…

Disney only owns ESPN through their ownership of ABC, FYI. That said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Disney

Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by ianai »

atourgates wrote: post #18

Someone more clever than me could graph out the intersection of cost, convenience and the average consumer's willingness to pirate content for digital media. I expect moving all Disney's non-live-sports content off the world's most popular streaming platform and on to an exclusive platform with its own monthly fee is going to push a lot of consumers over that line.

We're looking at a future where you have to purchase access to content and delivery of that content piecewise. Prices will definitely increase largely for the same content and convenience. And at some point society's probably going to crack down on piracy as though it were a logical extension of hacking.

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Post by fasdfdsafas »

pwinnski wrote: post #40
revelation wrote: post #13

Wow it's 2017 and they still haven't understood this. Nobody will pay for a Disney service, a HBO service, a Netflix Originals service, an Amazon Originals service, .. Not because people can't afford it, Americans happily paid $120 for cable, but simply because the balkanization throws convenience out of the window and nobody wants to deal with that .

People absolutely are paying for separate services. There's a limit to how many, but many, many people are paying for Netflix + HBO, or Amazon + HBO, because they believe HBO delivers value for the money. In contrast, I suspect very few people are likely to sign up for the CBS service, Star Trek or not, because I don't think many people believe CBS delivers value for the money. Disney is banking on people believing t…

Hopefully Star Trek will give me a reason to start torrenting TV shows again, but I know I shouldn't get my hopes up.

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Post by theseanstewart »

fullshark wrote: post #46
Anatidae wrote: post #30

If every studio thinks I'm going to pay them $10+ a month to stream their content, they are going to be very mistaken. I can't imagine that a lot of people want to spend the collective hundreds of dollars to sign up for all the streaming services. It's almost asking to drive people to torrents. Now, if Disney does something like $30/year or something really affordable - sure. I might do that on a whim. I guess it's a…

I would pay $20 a month if it had every disney movie ever, and every new release after a certain time period. I imagine there are a lot of parents that would as well.

If it also included every episode of all of their Disney Jr. shows, then it would be a no brainer.

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Post by jethro_tell »

thephyber wrote: post #17
pazrul wrote: post #10

I'm a little surprised they didn't move this content to Hulu. Disney already owns a 30% stake in Hulu, this could only make it more valuable.

It's almost like "Not Invented Here" syndrome.

No I think hulu doesn't do great with streaming live stuff. The money is to move the NFL and ESPN stuff they have there.

They also see benifit from cutting the cost of a middle man on streaming.

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Post by jff »

pwinnski wrote: post #40
revelation wrote: post #13

Wow it's 2017 and they still haven't understood this. Nobody will pay for a Disney service, a HBO service, a Netflix Originals service, an Amazon Originals service, .. Not because people can't afford it, Americans happily paid $120 for cable, but simply because the balkanization throws convenience out of the window and nobody wants to deal with that .

People absolutely are paying for separate services. There's a limit to how many, but many, many people are paying for Netflix + HBO, or Amazon + HBO, because they believe HBO delivers value for the money. In contrast, I suspect very few people are likely to sign up for the CBS service, Star Trek or not, because I don't think many people believe CBS delivers value for the money. Disney is banking on people believing t…

I'm glad to see someone bring up Star Trek and CBS's streaming service. They seem to think the new Trek series will save CBS All Access; I would contend that CBS All Access will kill their Trek series. I've heard from people who tried it, they said the stream quality is terrible from both an audio and video perspective. If you're going to bet on your own streaming platform, you really shouldn't cheap out on the tech.

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Post by ianai »

rwc wrote: post #60
PretzelPirate wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm happy to pay extra for content from Disney or HBO, but I just want a consistent user experience. I was a single app that will let me access all of this content.

That's the concept behind the "TV" app on Apple TV/iOS.

Also Roku.

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Post by kbutler »

fullshark wrote: post #41
kbenson wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe one day we'll get to the point where the content is mostly commoditized, and we'll simple be paying for whichever aggregating service provides the best usability (such as searching, recommendation, shared watching with remote friends, etc) will be leading instead. I don't think it will be anytime soon though.

Not as long as people want to watch stories about particular IP.

I don't see how that is qualitatively different from wanting to listen to music from specific artists.

The music industry has been able to work with aggregators, movies can, too.

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Post by nxsynonym »

Anatidae wrote: post #30

If every studio thinks I'm going to pay them $10+ a month to stream their content, they are going to be very mistaken. I can't imagine that a lot of people want to spend the collective hundreds of dollars to sign up for all the streaming services. It's almost asking to drive people to torrents. Now, if Disney does something like $30/year or something really affordable - sure. I might do that on a whim. I guess it's a…

Agreed. I only pay for netflix and HBO (and amazon, but that's a bonus for paying for prime). HBO doesn't feel like "extra" because it's always been an optional add-on that costs more.

First all the "major" studios will split and start charing $10/month. Then adds will start creeping back in. Before you know it everyone will be paying for an ad-hoc cable subscription.

I think a better option would be to do what Amazon is doing for HBO - offer a small portion of the studio (in this case Disney) included with the platform (Netflix) with the option to pay additional fees for the entire catalog.

The biggest deterrent, for me at least, is not the price but the need to switch platforms. I'm already annoyed when I have to go from Netflix to Amazon to find a movie/show I want to see but can't remember where it is. No chance I'll add a third, forth, or fifth platform to the mix.

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Post by codazoda »

Anatidae wrote: post #30

If every studio thinks I'm going to pay them $10+ a month to stream their content, they are going to be very mistaken. I can't imagine that a lot of people want to spend the collective hundreds of dollars to sign up for all the streaming services. It's almost asking to drive people to torrents. Now, if Disney does something like $30/year or something really affordable - sure. I might do that on a whim. I guess it's a…

We asked for a la carte TV pricing. I think this is what it looks like. I'll probably pay for a few channels and forget the rest.
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