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Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

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Post by smartbit »

I would never recommend SQL Server on Linux for Enterprise production.

- licensing costs are probably the same. If the cost of an additional Windows Server license is an argument, something else is going on.

- recently having dealt with MS Enterprise support on Linux, it was an horrendous experience I can nobody recommend

- an Enterprise with need for SQL Server without Windows Server support engineers?

- did we see independent performance tests published? A quick search I found these http://www.fhtino.it/blog/showpost.aspx?id=6790c78accb84f9c9..., seemingly not a convincing argument.

IMHO the whole story stinks and none of the arguments mentioned by Microsoft are valid. Probably it is all about winning hearts and minds.

SQL Server on Docker images for Devs is great as these are free of licensing costs (I guess).

Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

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Post by pjmlp »

peter_retief wrote: post #57
pjmlp wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You also don't plan to touch Haskell, OCaml, async/await patterns, RX, given that they all have influence from Microsoft Research?

Interesting how you capitalise the word "Research" after Microsoft, you must be a fan

No, I am someone that is able to distinguish the cold harsh reality of the corporate world, and religious hate against companies.

Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

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Post by noinsight »

cjsuk wrote: post #31
noinsight wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> how would a Linux box join AD domain? By using Red Hat's sssd which handles it pretty much seamlessly. You get fully working Kerberos with that which should work with SQL server probably.

You get mostly working Kerberos. It's not quite that reliable.

What issues have you run into? I haven't encountered any problems.

Admittedly I mostly use it for logging into servers with AD accounts (it will autocreate homedirs too!) and access controls via AD groups.

You can permit SSH/sudo access through AD group memberships. SSH works with Kerberos SSO.

Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

#65

Post by Alexis66 »

smartbit wrote: post #61

I would never recommend SQL Server on Linux for Enterprise production. - licensing costs are probably the same. If the cost of an additional Windows Server license is an argument, something else is going on. - recently having dealt with MS Enterprise support on Linux, it was an horrendous experience I can nobody recommend - an Enterprise with need for SQL Server without Windows Server support engineers? - did we see…

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Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

#66

Post by chx »

Microsoft is playing a fantastic Linux game with putting Linux userspace on the Windows desktop where drivers and UI are far better than the Linux drivers and UI and putting SQL Server on Linux server where the Linux kernel is much stronger. They know their strengths and weaknesses and not afraid to play to them.

Here's my writeup on setting up Windows 10 as a long, long time Linux user https://github.com/chx/chx.github.io/wiki/How-I-set-up-my-Wi...

Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

#67

Post by tommica »

Alexis66 wrote: post #65
smartbit wrote: post #61

I would never recommend SQL Server on Linux for Enterprise production. - licensing costs are probably the same. If the cost of an additional Windows Server license is an argument, something else is going on. - recently having dealt with MS Enterprise support on Linux, it was an horrendous experience I can nobody recommend - an Enterprise with need for SQL Server without Windows Server support engineers? - did we see…

I make up to $90 an hour working from my home. My story is that I quit working at Walmart to work online and ­with ­a ­­little ­effort ­I ­easily ­bring ­in ­around ­$­40h ­to ­$­86h… ­Someone ­was ­good ­to ­me ­by ­sharing ­this ­link ­with me, so now i am hoping i could help someone else out there by sharing this link­... Try it, you wOn't regret it­!... http://www.smartfinancemedia.com/?682

Hmm, I think HN needs a way to report either spam messages or users - this guy was created 6 mins ago, has two comments, both spam

Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

#68

Post by zvrba »

peter_retief wrote: post #42
pjmlp wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You also don't plan to touch Haskell, OCaml, async/await patterns, RX, given that they all have influence from Microsoft Research?

You offer a few examples of research developed my Microsoft but don't mention the destruction of an entire generation of innovation by deliberate barrier of entry by obfuscation and theft of intellectual property. The history of Microsoft is well known I don't need to recite what most people already know

What matters is now, not history. History is a bad predictor of future behavior (remember Google's "don't be evil"?)

Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

#69

Post by reitanqild »

tommica wrote: post #67
Alexis66 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I make up to $90 an hour working from my home. My story is that I quit working at Walmart to work online and ­with ­a ­­little ­effort ­I ­easily ­bring ­in ­around ­$­40h ­to ­$­86h… ­Someone ­was ­good ­to ­me ­by ­sharing ­this ­link ­with me, so now i am hoping i could help someone else out there by sharing this link­... Try it, you wOn't regret it­!... http://www.smartfinancemedia.com/?682

Hmm, I think HN needs a way to report either spam messages or users - this guy was created 6 mins ago, has two comments, both spam

Brainstorming with you:

Maybe we could have another queue /possiblespam like we have for /newest?

Or we could make a competition out of it:

1point for a correct spam identification

-10 for false positive

Re: How Microsoft brought SQL Server to Linux

#70

Post by peter_retief »

pjmlp wrote: post #60
peter_retief wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much of that is a direct result of Microsoft setting the standard of bullying, stealing and legal threats to keep their monopoly and prevent small innovators disrupting?

Just like any other corporation starting with the ones I mentioned, money drives the world, not religious personification for and against companies.

Money "is" a form of religion its called Mammon. I care about creativity and fair play, if that was a religion I would probably join. Surely we must believe something is worthwhile or worth fighting for? A lot of what I say is to generate debate which is something else I care about
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