This is silliness. I Win+R, mspaint at least 10 times a day. I paste in screenshots and quickly cut out just a portion of them. Or leave the screenshot there for later review. Why don't they just remove the file browser? Or how about mouse support?
On Windows 10 try: WIN+SHIFT+S to get instant screen clipping and paste it to e.g. Twitter or whatever.
Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years
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Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed. In fact, I also use OSX a lot, and would love to have 'Paint' there too.
It's not paint but Preview.app can crop, edit and annotate screenshots. A handy tip is to include control in the Mac screenshot keyboard command (e.g. ⌘⇧⌃3) to have the output piped to the clipboard instead of a file. Then in Preview.app, File > New opens the contents of the clipboard in a new window. While I'm at it, ⌘⇧4 (and ⌘⇧⌃4) lets you interactively select an arbitrary region. Also ⌘⇧4–Space (and ⌘⇧⌃4–Space) le…
Other sins include no trivial click path to instantiating an empty file on the desktop. One must open an application and either issue a command (touch or similar) or save an empty file with the application used (TextEdit.app for example). This is inconsistent with the fact that you can create folders in the context menu, but not files.
OS X discourages thinking in terms of the file system in general, by dumbing down the interface with "shortcuts" like All My Files, and buries the root hard disk partition many layers deep, in the default interface, forcing users to surface the usual affordances through several settings in multiple preferences menus. This creates a natural bias against proper command of one's data, among novice users, and promotes sloppy, confused organizational skills and inefficient usage patterns that eat the fuck out of hard drive space, leading inexperienced users to purchase unnecessary upgrades, in order to solve behavioral problems in hardware.
OS X also pushes users away from non-binary file formats, defaulting most formats to favor non-plain-text and targets closed formats that leave the user unable to look at file contents in a common universal manner. This leaves non-technical and less-technical users in a world where only "apps" can inform you of mere parts of your data. Again, users are not thinking in terms of files on disk, or discrete packets of information. Data lives in indescribale places at locations they often can only describe by "way finding" through pointing and clicking or tapping. There is no path, or tree, or name, or directory, or disk to these people, and thus no file or disk space to think of. Text resides is fields, images in albums or galleries, on and on.
Have you met or spoken with younger non-technical people lately. They are lost and beyond clueless about a lot of important things. This is in many ways due to Android and iOS (which in turn influences OS X). Linux is hardly a presence in the desktop world. And now Windows is going the same way. Dark days ahead.
Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not paint but Preview.app can crop, edit and annotate screenshots. A handy tip is to include control in the Mac screenshot keyboard command (e.g. ⌘⇧⌃3) to have the output piped to the clipboard instead of a file. Then in Preview.app, File > New opens the contents of the clipboard in a new window. While I'm at it, ⌘⇧4 (and ⌘⇧⌃4) lets you interactively select an arbitrary region. Also ⌘⇧4–Space (and ⌘⇧⌃4–Space) le…
Preview.app fucking sucks. There are a handful of truly obnoxious sins that OS X commits, and not providing a graphics editing application with full access to the pixel raster is one of them. Other sins include no trivial click path to instantiating an empty file on the desktop. One must open an application and either issue a command ( touch or similar) or save an empty file with the application used (TextEdit.app fo…
Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years
#64Question is why does MS after 32 years still include incredible WEAK tools like Paint and Notepad? They should spent a little and buy up some of the great tools out there and include them in windows.
Notepad is "weak" for a reason: it aims for absolutely minimal dependencies so that it can still be used for system recovery when everything else has gone to hell in a handbasket. Hard to make that argument for Paint though, I'll grant you.
Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years
#65Makes sense. Microsoft is missing out on recurring revenue. They purged the other image tool (the MS Office one that let you view TIFFs), and now they're killing paint. I'm sure there will be a Windows 10 Creators Pack for Creation for Personal Users (not to be confused with a creators update) available on 4 different channels for $6.99/mo. The stable branch will not have the ability to open JPEGs or save to a format…
"Microsoft to remove ability to right-click." Makes sense. Microsoft is missing out on recurring revenue. I'm sure there will be a Windows 10 Creators Pack for Mouse Power Users for $6.99/mo.
Windows is a product in decline in many ways, and a public company still needs to grow revenue. Users can (and are) migrating to modern platforms, but many of the organizations using it are doing so because they have to, will continue to have that need for a decade or more.
My colleagues at work who run apps on the IBM Mainframe and POWER server platforms plan their operational cadences around peak periods where they lease access to CPU cores and memory on their servers. They only get to access about 25% of the hardware without a meter running. Microsoft can and probably will do the same conceptual thing to extract more dollars.
Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years
#66This is silliness. I Win+R, mspaint at least 10 times a day. I paste in screenshots and quickly cut out just a portion of them. Or leave the screenshot there for later review. Why don't they just remove the file browser? Or how about mouse support?
I did the same until I discovered that windows has built in snippet tool. Try it out.
Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years
#67Paint3D takes longer to load, and has made the simple... much less simple. While we can all say "Yes, that's the way of tech", it's just not necessary.
And yes, I still miss my 1/8" jack on my iphone. Every single day. And stay off my lawn, you whippersnappers.
Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed. In fact, I also use OSX a lot, and would love to have 'Paint' there too.
It's not paint but Preview.app can crop, edit and annotate screenshots. A handy tip is to include control in the Mac screenshot keyboard command (e.g. ⌘⇧⌃3) to have the output piped to the clipboard instead of a file. Then in Preview.app, File > New opens the contents of the clipboard in a new window. While I'm at it, ⌘⇧4 (and ⌘⇧⌃4) lets you interactively select an arbitrary region. Also ⌘⇧4–Space (and ⌘⇧⌃4–Space) le…
Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed. In fact, I also use OSX a lot, and would love to have 'Paint' there too.
Hopefully not for same purpose as OP, since you can just do cmd+shift+4 and draw the region you want. Maybe Microsoft should implement something like this, so maybe shift+screen shot or something like that would let the user just draw rectangle over what they want captured.
But for cropping images in general, zooming in, adding quick bits of emphasis, etc. - Paint is pretty useful. (It also has the benefit of working more or less the same way since pre-Windows 3.0, so the consistency is a nice thing.)
Re: Microsoft Paint to be killed off after 32 years
#70This is silliness. I Win+R, mspaint at least 10 times a day. I paste in screenshots and quickly cut out just a portion of them. Or leave the screenshot there for later review. Why don't they just remove the file browser? Or how about mouse support?
if you have one note, one note has a snipping tool win+S to either copy to clipboard or copy to onenote.