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Maryam Mirzakhani, first woman and Iranian to win Fields Medal, has died

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Re: Maryam Mirzakhani, first woman and Iranian to win Fields Medal, has died

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Post by hexomancer »

davidf18 wrote: post #31
thebooktocome wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They affect Israel. For better or for worse, Israel has a special relationship with the US. Obama had tried to moderate it over the past eight years, but...

It was Israel that bombed the Iraqi nuclear reactor. If it had not, Iraq would have had nuclear weapons making action against Iraq very difficult. It is Israel that tests US weapons systems in real world combat situations giving a tremendous amount of feedback to improve the weapons systems. The Tom Cruise movie "Top Gun": It was Israel that stole the MIG fighter jet that enabled our government to understand the oper…

Are these supposed to make Israel sound good? Because to me, it sounds like Israel is doing the dirty, inhumane works for the US.

Re: Maryam Mirzakhani, first woman and Iranian to win Fields Medal, has died

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Post by dang »

thr31238893 wrote: post #39
davidf18 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why down voting a true comment about Iran supporting terrorist organizations. If what I stated is not true, down vote and please correct me. I was a few miles from 9/11 when it happened. Please, never, never minimize terrorism nor state sponsorship of terrorist organizations.

That'd be like the Pilgrims calling the Native warriors 'terrorists' ... well 'barbarian'. I don't condone Hamas, nor do I care for Islam, but no one comes close to contemporary Israel when it comes to inhumane and brutal war-crimes. I mean to drop Phosphorous on armless people ? That should take some cruel heart. It's not just Israel, US used depleted Uranium in Iraq, and before that Napalm in Vietnam. The brutality…

Throwaway accounts used for political flamewar are particularly not ok here. Would you please not do that?

Re: Maryam Mirzakhani, first woman and Iranian to win Fields Medal, has died

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Post by thebooktocome »

dbranes wrote: post #27

It's immensely disappointing that this comment section has has an abundance of comments on iranian socio-political issues, while completely devoid of any discussion on dynamics on moduli spaces.

Any typical human can form opinions on politics; it takes more work to say something meaningful about mathematics.

Re: Maryam Mirzakhani, first woman and Iranian to win Fields Medal, has died

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Post by 0xFFC »

dang wrote: post #51
0xFFC wrote: post #6

Iranian here, one point I really want to mention is following despite our theocratic regime, really I have to mention, Iran is not Suadi Arabia or anything like that. Girls and Boys do get the almost exactly same education, they have great opportunity to be a successful scholar in any branch of science they want (yes, It is like USA, your parent demographic will decide which university you most like end up into. But…

I'm sure you meant well but you sparked a political flamewar with this generically off-topic comment. Now instead of talking about a fine mathematician people are going on about terrorism and how whichever side they identify against is the one to blame for wars.

I didn't wanted to started this flamewar. But i have to discuss this because my country is under attack from insane right wing mentality when in our country we have great opportunities and great universities. Even Mirzakhani addressed this issue. You can search about it. When she talks about how people in Western countries think about Iran as jungle which every men burns USA flags every day and chants "death to America", when it is not true at all.

Re: Maryam Mirzakhani, first woman and Iranian to win Fields Medal, has died

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Post by dang »

0xFFC wrote: post #64
dang wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure you meant well but you sparked a political flamewar with this generically off-topic comment. Now instead of talking about a fine mathematician people are going on about terrorism and how whichever side they identify against is the one to blame for wars.

I didn't wanted to started this flamewar. But i have to discuss this because my country is under attack from insane right wing mentality when in our country we have great opportunities and great universities. Even Mirzakhani addressed this issue. You can search about it. When she talks about how people in Western countries think about Iran as jungle which every men burns USA flags every day and chants "death to Ameri…

(Edit: the above comment has been edited to say "I didn't wanted to start this flamewar". Originally it said "I wanted to start this flamewar". Probably this was just a language misfire and that's fine, but since there were objections below I should make clear that my reply was posted prior to the edit, as you can see from the bit that I quoted.)

> I wanted to started this flamewar. Because my country is under attack from insane

I respect your country. Nevertheless this violates HN's rules and if you do it again we will ban you.

The only place to keep Hacker News as a place for things that gratify intellectual curiosity is to keep it free of nationalistic indignation, however justified. It's always justified, and it's always off topic here.

Re: Maryam Mirzakhani, first woman and Iranian to win Fields Medal, has died

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Post by 0xFFC »

dang wrote: post #65
0xFFC wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't wanted to started this flamewar. But i have to discuss this because my country is under attack from insane right wing mentality when in our country we have great opportunities and great universities. Even Mirzakhani addressed this issue. You can search about it. When she talks about how people in Western countries think about Iran as jungle which every men burns USA flags every day and chants "death to Ameri…

(Edit: the above comment has been edited to say "I didn't wanted to start this flamewar". Originally it said "I wanted to start this flamewar". Probably this was just a language misfire and that's fine, but since there were objections below I should make clear that my reply was posted prior to the edit, as you can see from the bit that I quoted.) > I wanted to started this flamewar. Because my country is under attack…

>I respect your country. Nevertheless this violates HN's rules and if you do it again we will ban you.

Genuinely asking, which rules?

Sorry i need to clarify what I meant by country. I don't respect flags and idea. So we can both agree i am not nationalist. I don't respect the idea of iran or USA or etc. I respect humanity.

By country what I meant was the people. Out people (take for example students m) are under fierce attack of right wing mentality as terrorist when there is literally 0 terroric attack related to iran happen in USA in any last 20 years(50 years?).

Yet i cannot visa and i am waiting for almost 1 year even considering i have full scholarship from UIC.

But Suadi Arabia which literally where every terroristic attack rooted from in last 20 year is not in the ban list.

So , genuinely asking. I am nationalist, or i am trying to present a logical question?

Re: Maryam Mirzakhani, first woman and Iranian to win Fields Medal, has died

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Post by dang »

0xFFC wrote: post #67
dang wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(Edit: the above comment has been edited to say "I didn't wanted to start this flamewar". Originally it said "I wanted to start this flamewar". Probably this was just a language misfire and that's fine, but since there were objections below I should make clear that my reply was posted prior to the edit, as you can see from the bit that I quoted.) > I wanted to started this flamewar. Because my country is under attack…

>I respect your country. Nevertheless this violates HN's rules and if you do it again we will ban you. Genuinely asking, which rules? Sorry i need to clarify what I meant by country. I don't respect flags and idea. So we can both agree i am not nationalist. I don't respect the idea of iran or USA or etc. I respect humanity. By country what I meant was the people. Out people (take for example students m) are under fie…

These rules: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Especially the rules regarding civility, politics, and intellectual curiosity, which are the most important ones. Nationalistic flamewar—which you started—is the essence of all that we don't want here, regardless of how well-intentioned you are.

Life-and-death questions of national identity are far stronger and more important than the things that gratify intellectual curiosity. For that reason, we all (and you in particular) need to bracket those stronger topics and stronger emotions when commenting here. To do anything else is to give up on having a site dedicated to intellectual curiosity at all, and given that that's the raison d'etre of Hacker News, we can't allow that.

It's time for you to stop commenting now and really take this in.

Re: Maryam Mirzakhani, first woman and Iranian to win Fields Medal, has died

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Post by dang »

dbranes wrote: post #27

It's immensely disappointing that this comment section has has an abundance of comments on iranian socio-political issues, while completely devoid of any discussion on dynamics on moduli spaces.

I agree with you but this tar is so sticky that any trace of it, even one brought up to negate it, will only attract more of the same and start the cycle all over again. Therefore I need to detach this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14776588 and mark it off-topic (as of course I mark my own comments that go into this). You're welcome to post another comment upthread that's on topic and tar-free.

Re: Maryam Mirzakhani, first woman and Iranian to win Fields Medal, has died

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Post by [deleted] »

0xFFC wrote: post #67
dang wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(Edit: the above comment has been edited to say "I didn't wanted to start this flamewar". Originally it said "I wanted to start this flamewar". Probably this was just a language misfire and that's fine, but since there were objections below I should make clear that my reply was posted prior to the edit, as you can see from the bit that I quoted.) > I wanted to started this flamewar. Because my country is under attack…

>I respect your country. Nevertheless this violates HN's rules and if you do it again we will ban you. Genuinely asking, which rules? Sorry i need to clarify what I meant by country. I don't respect flags and idea. So we can both agree i am not nationalist. I don't respect the idea of iran or USA or etc. I respect humanity. By country what I meant was the people. Out people (take for example students m) are under fie…

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