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Blood from young animals can revitalise old ones

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Re: Blood from young animals can revitalise old ones

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This is not going to end well. Human trafficking is already a seriously bad condition in most societies - with this kind of science, I doubt that the black/grey markets are going to ignore the fact that there are very, very wealthy people out there, willing to pay for a little youth or two. This really speaks to the ethics of science, and technological morality. The world simply isn't ready for some of these major ad…

> The world simply isn't ready for some of these major advances in human life sciences.

Major advances? Blood transfusions and the whole idea sound quite basic to me.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

that is until the market is opened up and regulated. with so many young people around realizing that a thing they constantly produce for free is worth something - there will be no incentive to go through the criminal path. also worth mentioning that this could positively impact young population health as there is now clear monetary incentive to keep your blood healthy. it's a win all around, regulators just have to b…

Blood is worth a lot, people know that already, and illegal blood farming exists in some countries. But paying for blood increases the risk of people lying about the quality of their blood, which is why the administration doesn't incentivize blood donations. Your argument about criminality is very wrong. Maybe I speak for myself, but I'd much rather be a criminal than a professional blood donor. People are not crimin…

In the US it's already legal to sell plasma, semen, eggs, bone marrow , breast milk, and rent wombs as a surrogate [0]. The legality of selling blood would not eliminate donations much like the ability to sell clothing does not eliminate clothing donation. Considering that there are negatives to selling blood (e.g. time, marginal risk, inconvenience, etc) I think some form of compensation is fair and would only increase the supply

[0] http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/10-body-parts-you-can-le...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one is using ketamine to cure depression, but some doctors and some "body hacker" types are using it to treat depression with mixed success. For now, it seems to be most useful as a rapid-onset suicide prevention treatment.

For what it's worth, my experience is that almost all ketamine use I know of personally erased that person's depression for a week or so. I think it's less uncommon more and more.

only for the depression to come back in full force, while the tolerance increased?

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post #54

I think older civilizations may have discovered something like this and put it into practice, giving rise to the myth of Vampires. The Vampires of lore are described as very old people who suck the blood of youngsters to stay alive. The parts about them fearing sunlight, or garlic, or whatever, might just be based on side-effects of this cure for ageing. The inaccuracy of "sucking" instead of transfusion, might be be…

I recently read that ancient mongoles would drink their horses blood in dire need.

Re: Blood from young animals can revitalise old ones

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post #34

This is not going to end well. Human trafficking is already a seriously bad condition in most societies - with this kind of science, I doubt that the black/grey markets are going to ignore the fact that there are very, very wealthy people out there, willing to pay for a little youth or two. This really speaks to the ethics of science, and technological morality. The world simply isn't ready for some of these major ad…

I wouldn't be quite so worried. If the effects truly do end up being due to soluble signalling factors in the younger blood (and not immune cell implantation or some other physiologic quirk of the cross-wired parabiosis experimental setup that won't transfer to non-inbred humans) then those factors will be synthesized in bioreactors and made into a synthetic plasma product - that's also the only likely way to make mo…

That's the only likely way to make money for a legit therapeutic company, but before we have the technology to manufacture young blood cheaply and massively, I think kidnapping people and forcing them to give their blood can be done cheaply and be cost effective for a mafia.

I mean, that's already what they do with sex workers

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This was shown to be an inaccurate conclusion from the study. Since the animals were sewn together, more than just blood was shared. Organs, motility, behavior, etc. http://news.berkeley.edu/2016/11/22/young-blood-does-not-rev... a new study must be done where only blood is transmitted periodically without those other factors in the picture.

Yes. Maybe the blood of old mouse stimulate the generation of repair molecules in young mouse. Without the bidirectional exchange of blood, nothing would happen.

Re: Blood from young animals can revitalise old ones

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post #34

This is not going to end well. Human trafficking is already a seriously bad condition in most societies - with this kind of science, I doubt that the black/grey markets are going to ignore the fact that there are very, very wealthy people out there, willing to pay for a little youth or two. This really speaks to the ethics of science, and technological morality. The world simply isn't ready for some of these major ad…

Come on. Let's start with a positive comment.

(I think this is one cause of our technological stagnation. Every article about a new technology has a comment like this at the top.)

Re: Blood from young animals can revitalise old ones

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We are going to be written into the history books as the decadent vampires who ran earth into the ground.

Meh. Elizabeth Bathory used to bathe in the blood of her servant girls, and Vlad Tepes impaled his enemies and used their viscera as a dipping sauce. Now that is decadence.

Re: Blood from young animals can revitalise old ones

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post #3

I'm excited to see capitalists and oligarchs become literal blood suckers. Reminds me of the blood boy sketch in Silicon Valley.

Too late, already happened: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/this-anti-aging-start...

Oh, dear. In 2030 or so, we'll be looking back on this as how a bunch of rich idiots died of an exciting new strain of hepatitis.
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