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Re: Fedora 26 released

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used Fedora years ago at 19 and 20 and it was great then. It worked and... Worked. The desktop came with sane defaults. It... Worked.

I would have worded this a bit different than you did. But I too have shyed away from fedora the last few years. I'm primarily a KDE user but I guess now is a good time to try fedora again if I get some time. (On my test vm now: latest Ubuntu with gnome. Also hoping to give solus/budgie a little more time.)

Please don't do this to yourself : I tried Fedora 25 KDE a few weeks ago and it was the buggiest POS I ever ran on my PC. Just customizing the taskbar gave me a black screen that even a reboot didn't solve.

For the record Fedora Gnome was rock stable on the same machine. The only reason I didn't keep it is that I need what I call a 'pinnable taskbar' (like Windows 7).

If you really want KDE you could try KDE Neon, still a bit buggy for my taste but at least it's usable.

After a few more distros I settled on Mint Cinnamon. Not bad but frankly I miss Windows.

Re: Fedora 26 released

#62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would have worded this a bit different than you did. But I too have shyed away from fedora the last few years. I'm primarily a KDE user but I guess now is a good time to try fedora again if I get some time. (On my test vm now: latest Ubuntu with gnome. Also hoping to give solus/budgie a little more time.)

Please don't do this to yourself : I tried Fedora 25 KDE a few weeks ago and it was the buggiest POS I ever ran on my PC. Just customizing the taskbar gave me a black screen that even a reboot didn't solve. For the record Fedora Gnome was rock stable on the same machine. The only reason I didn't keep it is that I need what I call a 'pinnable taskbar' (like Windows 7). If you really want KDE you could try KDE Neon, st…

Ok, you seem to have the same taste as me.

I'm currently on KDE Neon at home and at work until I switched jobs a couple of months ago and I also liked Mint Cinnamon a lot.

Re: Fedora 26 released

#64

Everyone is praising GNOME here. Am I the only one who thinks that it's not polished enough? I'm using it on my laptop and it kind of works most of the time. But there are occasional bugs arising here and there. I even sometimes think that I'm the first user otherwise how come nobody noticed those (sometimes very obvious) bugs. If 26 isn't fixing them, apparently I'll have to move back to the Cinnamon spin.

I think GNOME 3 has come a long way but years later I'm still bothered by their killing type-ahead navigation in the file dialog and replacing it with search -- however useful searching may be (and despite recent improvements), it slows me down greatly, and often leads to mistakes, when I know where something is and simply want to navigate to it.

Plenty of discussion about this [0] [1] but the GNOME devs don't want it back, for various reasions.

Ubuntu has always patched it back in, but it looks like they will drop it in 17.10 if nobody steps up to maintain the patch [2].

[0] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1164...

[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=721968

[2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1666...

Re: Fedora 26 released

#65
post #15

So what's the Linux remote desktop story these days? It seems like modern versions of GNOME running on Wayland don't support VNC?

Try xrdp:

dnf install @"Cinnamon Desktop" cinnamon-session xrdp xorgxrdp

The only downside in Fedora 25 - software rendering in your X-RDP session

Re: Fedora 26 released

#66
post #64

Everyone is praising GNOME here. Am I the only one who thinks that it's not polished enough? I'm using it on my laptop and it kind of works most of the time. But there are occasional bugs arising here and there. I even sometimes think that I'm the first user otherwise how come nobody noticed those (sometimes very obvious) bugs. If 26 isn't fixing them, apparently I'll have to move back to the Cinnamon spin.

I think GNOME 3 has come a long way but years later I'm still bothered by their killing type-ahead navigation in the file dialog and replacing it with search -- however useful searching may be (and despite recent improvements), it slows me down greatly, and often leads to mistakes, when I know where something is and simply want to navigate to it. Plenty of discussion about this [0] [1] but the GNOME devs don't want i…

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Re: Fedora 26 released

#67

Still no Wayland with Nvidia drivers. Yes, I have read perhaps too much about GBM/EGLStream debate, but right now I am out of luck with my GTX1080 :( (And, frankly, Wayland guys are wrong and Nvidia is right.)

To the parenthetical part of your post: I thought Wayland and NVidia sorted out their differences several months ago and agreed to write a new protocol that addressed the valid concerns of both parties.

Re: Fedora 26 released

#68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would have worded this a bit different than you did. But I too have shyed away from fedora the last few years. I'm primarily a KDE user but I guess now is a good time to try fedora again if I get some time. (On my test vm now: latest Ubuntu with gnome. Also hoping to give solus/budgie a little more time.)

Please don't do this to yourself : I tried Fedora 25 KDE a few weeks ago and it was the buggiest POS I ever ran on my PC. Just customizing the taskbar gave me a black screen that even a reboot didn't solve. For the record Fedora Gnome was rock stable on the same machine. The only reason I didn't keep it is that I need what I call a 'pinnable taskbar' (like Windows 7). If you really want KDE you could try KDE Neon, st…

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Re: Fedora 26 released

#69

Everyone is praising GNOME here. Am I the only one who thinks that it's not polished enough? I'm using it on my laptop and it kind of works most of the time. But there are occasional bugs arising here and there. I even sometimes think that I'm the first user otherwise how come nobody noticed those (sometimes very obvious) bugs. If 26 isn't fixing them, apparently I'll have to move back to the Cinnamon spin.

Yes, i got some little things here and there, but in general it's a very good experience working in gnome these days and fedora took it to a whole new level of polish.

Re: Fedora 26 released

#70

I've been a Ubuntu user for years, but I've just read the Fedora 26 announcement and followed the link through to Gnome 3.24 release notes ( https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.24/ ). The 3rd headlighting major feature of this is "New Recipes Application". One word: Sold! I've been dreaming of the day Linux DE/WM got this core feature! I think we can safely say 2017 will indeed be the year of Linux desktop, w…

It's only taken us 48 years to catch up:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell_316#Kitchen_Computer

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