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This whole naming of Skype app for linux is confusing. This announcement is just that they are retiring their older version of the app and they are asking users to switch to the newer beta version which is missing some features. Ultimately there's still going to be an official app for Linux.

What do they gain by retiring a working app in favour of an unreleased "upgrade"? Is there some problem with the old version that needs immediate upgrade and can't be (security) patched?

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Due to instability and memory/race condition issues with the new sykpe app, I've been using Pidgin and the skypeweb plugin: https://github.com/EionRobb/skype4pidgin/tree/master/skypewe... This works well for me since most of my skype traffic is chats, but I have to load the new skype app for calls.

Nitpick, I assume by "race condition" you mean "used lots of CPU". This is a common colloquial conflation, but race conditions [1] (which are not generally identifiable without aid of a debugger and the application's source code) and high CPU usage are unrelated concepts. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_condition

That's not a nitpick. These are entirely different things and calling high CPU usage a "race condition" is really confusing and misleading.

Do people actually do that? Where did that come from?

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Due to instability and memory/race condition issues with the new sykpe app, I've been using Pidgin and the skypeweb plugin: https://github.com/EionRobb/skype4pidgin/tree/master/skypewe... This works well for me since most of my skype traffic is chats, but I have to load the new skype app for calls.

Nitpick, I assume by "race condition" you mean "used lots of CPU". This is a common colloquial conflation, but race conditions [1] (which are not generally identifiable without aid of a debugger and the application's source code) and high CPU usage are unrelated concepts. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_condition

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I couldn't agree more. We've been using Skype for internal communication for a very long time. Back then it was the only option that worked on all the OSes we need (Linux, Windows, Mac), had all the features, and it just worked. But the Electron app is just damn terrible. The message layout is super inefficient - it can display maybe half the messages compared to the native client. If you click somewhere, it un-expec…

What reliable alternatives would you suggest?

Ekiga

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What reliable alternatives would you suggest?

This will sound crazy but with the Discord or Twitch App are rock solid, but they are gamer focus and also they are electron apps (I have mostly positive experience with electron apps myself, VS Code and RStudio). I do like mumble and ran my own server for years, but client wise it is not as easy.

I use Discord for all sorts of things, not just games. What features do you find it's missing that would be useful?

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As others are saying, the new Electron-based app is so bad on so many levels. Recently it has been failing to deliver incoming messages. They don't even appear, it just causes confusion to anyone trying to have a text conversation. Plus the lack of features that versions for other platforms have. At this point it's just better to use web.skype.com on a browser tab. I find that more reliable than the Electron client.…

I've had conference calls with Microsoft using Skype on Windows 10 on a Surface Book, and 3 Microsoft employees still haven't been able to get Skype to work.

That's probably Skype for Business, aka Lync though. Weren't they actually separate code bases?

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This whole naming of Skype app for linux is confusing. This announcement is just that they are retiring their older version of the app and they are asking users to switch to the newer beta version which is missing some features. Ultimately there's still going to be an official app for Linux.

What do they gain by retiring a working app in favour of an unreleased "upgrade"? Is there some problem with the old version that needs immediate upgrade and can't be (security) patched?

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I've had conference calls with Microsoft using Skype on Windows 10 on a Surface Book, and 3 Microsoft employees still haven't been able to get Skype to work.

That's probably Skype for Business, aka Lync though. Weren't they actually separate code bases?

If they are, it's still incredibly terrible. An enormous list of common glitches could be written about it, that just never get patched

For one, it tends to split group convos into random tabs at random intervals, black hole messages, crash randomly and silently and you don't notice until someone says you're offline(the window will still open! it's just hung), etc etc.

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This whole naming of Skype app for linux is confusing. This announcement is just that they are retiring their older version of the app and they are asking users to switch to the newer beta version which is missing some features. Ultimately there's still going to be an official app for Linux.

What do they gain by retiring a working app in favour of an unreleased "upgrade"? Is there some problem with the old version that needs immediate upgrade and can't be (security) patched?

final depreciation of p2p and new cloud based calling

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This will sound crazy but with the Discord or Twitch App are rock solid, but they are gamer focus and also they are electron apps (I have mostly positive experience with electron apps myself, VS Code and RStudio). I do like mumble and ran my own server for years, but client wise it is not as easy.

I use Discord for all sorts of things, not just games. What features do you find it's missing that would be useful?

The main complaints that I have seen are with video calling and screen-sharing.

These should be added soon™, though.

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