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iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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Post by TeMPOraL »

3pt14159 wrote: post #26
tfoil2 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Screw any app that really thinks it needs my precise coordinates in the foreground, let alone the background. Turn-by-turn directions in maps is the only exception I've found in 10 years of iPhone use.

I want to be tracked by Google. I went out of my way to turn it on in iPhone. My location is leaked to cell towers and by what wifi network I'm connecting through anyway, and I'd rather be able to figure out which cool restaurant I went to months after my visit to Vilnius is over. Plus my memory of my personal life is so unreliable, especially if I don't have any context, so if I'm ever in court I'd like to be able t…

Explicitly decided to keep Google Maps' location history activated on my device for precisely the same reasons. I'm yet to use it in court or something like that, but the argument about human memory resonates with me strongly - I've used location history many times to review e.g. on which day I was in some place or other few years ago. (Or once, years ago, to check how exactly did I get home after one party.)

RE people saying "just take a photo and use EXIF", that won't work because I don't know in advance what locations I will be interested in in the future.

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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Post by TeMPOraL »

olivier_martel wrote: post #38
3pt14159 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to be tracked by Google. I went out of my way to turn it on in iPhone. My location is leaked to cell towers and by what wifi network I'm connecting through anyway, and I'd rather be able to figure out which cool restaurant I went to months after my visit to Vilnius is over. Plus my memory of my personal life is so unreliable, especially if I don't have any context, so if I'm ever in court I'd like to be able t…

you could instead just snap a picture of every location you want to remember, you have the location attached as an EXIF

The things you think you'll want to remember later aren't the same things you find yourself wishing you had recorded when that "later" comes.

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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Post by r0fl »

mistermann wrote: post #60
gigatexal wrote: post #3

Fantastic. Screw Uber for only having the option to always use or never use.

Wait, can Uber see my name and where I am all the time? Can any app do this?

Your account is linked to a credit card and name. So yes uber knows who you are

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

#65

Post by DavideNL »

I really like Apples pro-privacy stance, in contrary to Google & Microsoft.

Hopefully sometime soon Apple will also encrypt iCloud contents so data from non-american people (europe in my case) is protected against the US government prying eyes.

Our data/privacy seems pretty well protected inside Europe, but in America we seem to have 0 privacy rights (America first...!)

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

#66

Post by _acme »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #61
3pt14159 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to be tracked by Google. I went out of my way to turn it on in iPhone. My location is leaked to cell towers and by what wifi network I'm connecting through anyway, and I'd rather be able to figure out which cool restaurant I went to months after my visit to Vilnius is over. Plus my memory of my personal life is so unreliable, especially if I don't have any context, so if I'm ever in court I'd like to be able t…

Explicitly decided to keep Google Maps' location history activated on my device for precisely the same reasons. I'm yet to use it in court or something like that, but the argument about human memory resonates with me strongly - I've used location history many times to review e.g. on which day I was in some place or other few years ago. (Or once, years ago, to check how exactly did I get home after one party.) RE peop…

Do you mean ex ante? A priori knowledge is that which is independent of experience, as in deduced from pure reason; it doesn't just mean 'in advance'.

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

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Post by TeMPOraL »

_acme wrote: post #66
TeMPOraL wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Explicitly decided to keep Google Maps' location history activated on my device for precisely the same reasons. I'm yet to use it in court or something like that, but the argument about human memory resonates with me strongly - I've used location history many times to review e.g. on which day I was in some place or other few years ago. (Or once, years ago, to check how exactly did I get home after one party.) RE peop…

Do you mean ex ante? A priori knowledge is that which is independent of experience, as in deduced from pure reason; it doesn't just mean 'in advance'.

Yeah, that's what I meant. Thanks for this correction, I didn't realize "a priori" doesn't mean what I thought it means.

(I edited the comment to use "in advance" instead of "ex ante" though.)

Re: iOS 11 Location Privacy: "Only While Using" is now always an option for users

#68

Post by gvurrdon »

3pt14159 wrote: post #26
tfoil2 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Screw any app that really thinks it needs my precise coordinates in the foreground, let alone the background. Turn-by-turn directions in maps is the only exception I've found in 10 years of iPhone use.

I want to be tracked by Google. I went out of my way to turn it on in iPhone. My location is leaked to cell towers and by what wifi network I'm connecting through anyway, and I'd rather be able to figure out which cool restaurant I went to months after my visit to Vilnius is over. Plus my memory of my personal life is so unreliable, especially if I don't have any context, so if I'm ever in court I'd like to be able t…

I've been using this for precisely the reasons you mention:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-have-i-been/id64155398...

Google's location history is excellent and I'd gladly pay for an equivalent application which I could self-host and set up with the minimum of hassle, but having them do it creeps me out too much. I've not managed to work out how to get OwnTracks to substitute fully for it.

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