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McDonald's delivery to be available in 3,500 restaurants by the end of June

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"McDonalds probably has better research on their own business than you do." This is never something you should believe in a major, for-profit company heavy on management. Those companies have people investing in all kinds of BS all the time everywhere from top to store level. That includes McDonalds which is easy to verify by just listening to the employees talk about management and company politics. Now, it may be a…

> "McDonalds probably has better research on their own business than you do." This is never something you should believe in a major, for-profit company heavy on management. It takes an astonishing amount of hubris for any single individual to believe they can really have market research superior to a company's when it comes to the company's core competency. Even where it's true, I expect such an individual to have a…

"It takes an astonishing amount of hubris"

It really doesn't. All it takes is a person to listen to people that work at these Fortune 500 companies talk about how big decisions get made. I did that most of my day for years. I also read what many say on online forums. I believe there's plenty of smart people in them including excellent marketers at McDonalds. There's even plenty of well-informed decisions and sensible projects.

However, years of empirical data says what makes most of these companies run amounts to political skill of managers and the Peter Principle. Again, that's not my guess so much as what people in the middle and on the ground tell me. The low-level employees of big, food chains also gripe about corporate visitors saying they're worthless by adding nothing to what's going on or things they say are hugely disconnected from how the place runs day-to-day. As if they're managing a different, better-run company with more staff. Those people come and go with high turnover but a fraction of them move up into the positions making bigger decisions despite adding about nothing to the effectiveness of their restaurants. Gotta be politics and authoritarianism instead of performance given the data.

Re: McDonald's delivery to be available in 3,500 restaurants by the end of June

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> "McDonalds probably has better research on their own business than you do." This is never something you should believe in a major, for-profit company heavy on management. It takes an astonishing amount of hubris for any single individual to believe they can really have market research superior to a company's when it comes to the company's core competency. Even where it's true, I expect such an individual to have a…

"It takes an astonishing amount of hubris" It really doesn't. All it takes is a person to listen to people that work at these Fortune 500 companies talk about how big decisions get made. I did that most of my day for years. I also read what many say on online forums. I believe there's plenty of smart people in them including excellent marketers at McDonalds. There's even plenty of well-informed decisions and sensible…

Anecdotes and asserting that empirical data exists without providing it isn't very convincing.

Re: McDonald's delivery to be available in 3,500 restaurants by the end of June

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"It takes an astonishing amount of hubris" It really doesn't. All it takes is a person to listen to people that work at these Fortune 500 companies talk about how big decisions get made. I did that most of my day for years. I also read what many say on online forums. I believe there's plenty of smart people in them including excellent marketers at McDonalds. There's even plenty of well-informed decisions and sensible…

Anecdotes and asserting that empirical data exists without providing it isn't very convincing.

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Re: McDonald's delivery to be available in 3,500 restaurants by the end of June

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"It takes an astonishing amount of hubris" It really doesn't. All it takes is a person to listen to people that work at these Fortune 500 companies talk about how big decisions get made. I did that most of my day for years. I also read what many say on online forums. I believe there's plenty of smart people in them including excellent marketers at McDonalds. There's even plenty of well-informed decisions and sensible…

Anecdotes and asserting that empirical data exists without providing it isn't very convincing.

Attempted some quick Googling for you. As expected, it's mostly noise about what managers think of their workers instead of other way around. However, I did find this Gallup piece studying a huge number of workers and companies that supports my hypothesis about management competency in average case.

http://www.gallup.com/businessjournal/167975/why-great-manag...

Re: McDonald's delivery to be available in 3,500 restaurants by the end of June

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I live in Scandinavia and love McDonalds, but it's pretty expensive so I don't eat it so often and healthy food is much cheaper. In the U.S. it seems to be opposite, McDonalds and fastfood in general is cheap, while healthy food is expensive.

As an Australian living in the US, I noticed that difference too, in addition to some others.

The staff didn't seem nearly as miserable (I was one of them for a while) or apathetic in Australian restaurants. I noticed when I went back that the food wasn't nearly as greasy in Australia (I've actually noticed that about meat in general, US meat tends to seem greasier for some reason) and it usually seemed prepared with a little more care (the burgers weren't falling apart for example). Also the restaurants were consistently cleaner, better maintained and more up-to-date than their US counterparts.

Re: McDonald's delivery to be available in 3,500 restaurants by the end of June

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Anecdotes and asserting that empirical data exists without providing it isn't very convincing.

Attempted some quick Googling for you. As expected, it's mostly noise about what managers think of their workers instead of other way around. However, I did find this Gallup piece studying a huge number of workers and companies that supports my hypothesis about management competency in average case. http://www.gallup.com/businessjournal/167975/why-great-manag...

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Re: McDonald's delivery to be available in 3,500 restaurants by the end of June

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McDonalds isn't doing delivery. Third parties are doing delivery. Doordash delivers KFC, Jack in the Box, and Panda Express in Silicon Valley as their fast food choices. With Doordash, don't order anything you can't reheat when it shows up. That's the trouble with these low-end delivery services. They're not using a vehicle with hot and cold storage. It's just some sucker's car.

Robot delivery is coming along. Here's a Starship Technologies delivery robot in downtown Redwood City.[1] It's in front of Box.net HQ. Notice the guy in shorts following the thing around. When I see that robot, it usually has a minder. The minder isn't driving it, just watching over it.

[1] https://s12.postimg.org/9gs8v03j1/robotatbox.jpg

Re: McDonald's delivery to be available in 3,500 restaurants by the end of June

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Poor person here. Inflation has made it so it's not even really an option. Everyone has removed their dollar menu and jacked up the price which is what I order off of if I was in a hurry. It's cheaper and effective for me to the burrito hole in the wall and get a massive burrito for 4 bucks than go to any fast food place.

I have a (serious) question, why don't you cook yourself? Is it more expensive to cook in your location? Lack of time? I have heard this argument a lot and am honestly wondering (I'm not from the us, I'm a chef, so for me things may be a lot different, hence the question).

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Re: McDonald's delivery to be available in 3,500 restaurants by the end of June

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Anecdotes and asserting that empirical data exists without providing it isn't very convincing.

Attempted some quick Googling for you. As expected, it's mostly noise about what managers think of their workers instead of other way around. However, I did find this Gallup piece studying a huge number of workers and companies that supports my hypothesis about management competency in average case. http://www.gallup.com/businessjournal/167975/why-great-manag...

It's not clear that you understand the majority of the ~36K MCD restaurants are franchised, so the employees do not work for MCD, they work for small local franchisees businesses. MCD only owns ~7k locations (i.e. ~16%).

Re: McDonald's delivery to be available in 3,500 restaurants by the end of June

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Attempted some quick Googling for you. As expected, it's mostly noise about what managers think of their workers instead of other way around. However, I did find this Gallup piece studying a huge number of workers and companies that supports my hypothesis about management competency in average case. http://www.gallup.com/businessjournal/167975/why-great-manag...

It's not clear that you understand the majority of the ~36K MCD restaurants are franchised, so the employees do not work for MCD, they work for small local franchisees businesses. MCD only owns ~7k locations (i.e. ~16%).

My comments apply to what majority of US workers tell me regardless of owners. I'd love to see a survey on competence covering both franchisees and corporate stores.
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