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CEOs Want Their Offices Back

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Re: CEOs Want Their Offices Back

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Why do CEO's think they're alone in the need for quiet spaces where they can focus? Sure some people can work in the noisy space where interruptions abound. The only thing in my office that works well with interruptions is my CPU. I'd rather have a Cube farm, but better yet, a small tiny phone booth as an office.

careful what you wish for. I also like silence. But I'd rather use noise cancelling headphones than work in the booth among thousands other booths.

For the life of me, I don't understand how "thousands of cubes" is somehow worse than "thousands of $15 Ikea tables".

It's just a matter of fads and fashion. Cubicles are "so 90's", while crappy tables thrown together in a loud frat house romper room is "2000's".

I understand that each generation has an impulse to differentiate themselves from the previous one. But in this specific case, it is absolutely a productivity and quality-of-life downgrade. The purpose is for management to save money, period.

Re: CEOs Want Their Offices Back

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Theory: open space fosters communication, because you can easily engage in discussion with others.

Reality: everybody is sitting with their headphones on. The only way to get their attention is via Slack or by throwing objects at them.

Re: CEOs Want Their Offices Back

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post #51

Why do CEO's think they're alone in the need for quiet spaces where they can focus? Sure some people can work in the noisy space where interruptions abound. The only thing in my office that works well with interruptions is my CPU. I'd rather have a Cube farm, but better yet, a small tiny phone booth as an office.

Just like the cargo cult Agile pandemic peaked a few years ago, I suspect we're reaching peak open floor plans right now. The overall negative effects of an open floor plan for a significant fraction of engineers (though not all) is self-evident and backed up by reams of data stretching back nearly 40 years: http://iansommerville.com/software-engineering-book/web/work... TLDR: 100 square feet of personal space is opt…

Many large company will do but the large brunt of codetariat working for cash strapped business living and dying according to investors and customers will be keept in the open spaces: they looks cool in photos, convey a reassuring sense of "working bees" and sells well to visiting customers, so I fear the open plan it's here to stay.

Re: CEOs Want Their Offices Back

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Why do CEO's think they're alone in the need for quiet spaces where they can focus? Sure some people can work in the noisy space where interruptions abound. The only thing in my office that works well with interruptions is my CPU. I'd rather have a Cube farm, but better yet, a small tiny phone booth as an office.

I would take a 10% paycut to have a small office that fits 2 monitors, a filing cabinet and some pictures, rather then dealing with constant clattering of the guy behind me that decided converting a type writer into a digital keyboard was a good idea.

I have all that, and the best part is I don't need to commute. :) Working remotely is perfect.

Re: CEOs Want Their Offices Back

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The mechanical keyboard people in open offices bother me.

So you would prefer your coworkers develop RSI symptoms from straining to use a laptop keyboard? Not all of us can use laptops for extended periods of time. Now if I could type with my brain (and I don't mean by smashing my head repeatedly on the keyboard), that's Sam Altman status quo shattering next-level stuff, but I don't think we're there yet. As others have replied, the problem isn't my typing, it's <40 square…

Anything noisy in an open office, including me when forget to lower my voice, is bothersome :)

Re: CEOs Want Their Offices Back

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> The lofty building Jordan Hamad moved his tech-advisory firm into four years ago had the trappings of a startup idyll: open floor plan, polished concrete floors , custom-built communal tables. Decisions like this make me seriously question the whole idea that our economy is populated by rational actors. Obviously polished concrete floors are a terrible idea in an office. Even if you believe that open plan works, th…

Markets are efficient, not rational.

Re: CEOs Want Their Offices Back

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I was told my brown switches were horrendous :(

In most cases, it's the keys bottoming out rather the switches. Guy in our office with a membrane keyboard who smashes the keys into oblivion is far louder than the two mechanical keyboards in the same space.

I have brown keys and bottoming out is definitely the noisy part.

Re: CEOs Want Their Offices Back

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I would take a 10% paycut to have a small office that fits 2 monitors, a filing cabinet and some pictures, rather then dealing with constant clattering of the guy behind me that decided converting a type writer into a digital keyboard was a good idea.

The mechanical keyboard people in open offices bother me.

They are like Accelerationists, bringing about the end of an undesirable system by increasing the damage it causes until it cannot be ignored.

Re: CEOs Want Their Offices Back

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I appreciate a nice pair of noise-cancelling headphones, but they tend to cause pain and irritation when worn for long periods of time.

Consider finding some pilots headsets, now that's fancy quality.

Or studio monitor headphones. I can wear mine for hours.

Re: CEOs Want Their Offices Back

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Theory: open space fosters communication, because you can easily engage in discussion with others. Reality: everybody is sitting with their headphones on. The only way to get their attention is via Slack or by throwing objects at them.

In the academia, where good communication and idea sharing are essential, there are no open offices.

Said communication happens where it ought to be: in rec room or cafeteria.

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