61–70 of 225 posts
Well this looks like going to push Kotlin in big league. I remember scala enthusiasts made big noise in last few years to have scala as officially supported language. But Google seems to prefer a closer relationship with Jetbrains.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think Go is never going to be officially supported on Android. Dart, though, seems more likely as it is Java like VM based language. Go is going to have better support on Fuchsia OS from Google.
I don't doubt that Fuchsia will support Go, but Dart appears to already be Fuchsia's officially preferred userspace language (via Flutter).
What I am not happy with this whole browser platform embedded in frontend apps and called native and amazing. But that's for another discussion:-)
Would be lovely if they officially supported Clojure too.
Would be lovely if they officially supported Clojure too.
Good move. Out with possible null pointers everywhere for no freaking reason at all. It's 2017. Apple did a great job with Swift but launched it when it wasn't mature yet but Kotlin will have JetBrains level of IDE support from the get go so and it's mature already only a luddite would stay with Java.
Kotlin was released in 2011. I bet that if Google had adopted it three years ago, it would have helped accelerate Kotlin adoption and Kotlin would be even further along today, having a much larger developer community.
Funny, I was messing around with Kotlin for the first time last night. So far, the language seems well-structured and I really like that one gets all of Java's ecosystem without actually having to write java. (Also, "override fun" just sounds hilarious. Bwaha!) Throw in TornadoFX and Gluon Scene Builder (formerly of Oracle) and you're spinning up high-quality cross-platform GUIs faster than Atom, with a visual editor…
The problem is its performance on the device and size overhead is horrible. Javafxpackager is just about the worse too. Check out Codename One which is more like Swing but far more robust. The GUI builder isn't as refined as scene builder but the final product actually works everywhere and far more portable than anything else.
Wondering if Jetbrains will release Kotlin/Native for a set price or charge monthly like most companies are doing these days.
I'm assuming that this is going to work natively via LLVM, as Kotlin's original target was JVM bytecode, which should work fine on Android right now.
Today, Android cross-compiles JVM bytecode to its own non-JVM bytecode; I'd assume they'll continue using a two-stage approach for Kotlin.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is its performance on the device and size overhead is horrible. Javafxpackager is just about the worse too. Check out Codename One which is more like Swing but far more robust. The GUI builder isn't as refined as scene builder but the final product actually works everywhere and far more portable than anything else.
Codename one "Professional Edition" is $79 per month! Basic is $19 per month... As a kind of "indie" developer that is very expensive. Gluon Mobile is not much less expensive at $42 per month. Still, free edition looks better than Codename 1 free edition. Wondering if Jetbrains will release Kotlin/Native for a set price or charge monthly like most companies are doing these days.
What does it mean being "supported", given that one already can use Kotlin on Android?