Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

dotdev.co

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

61–70 of 229 posts

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

#61

Post by tyingq »

seibelj wrote: post #58
tyingq wrote: post #2

"The app itself is powered by Laravel, Vue.js, Socket.io, and Node" Is there another Laravel other than the php one? Seems odd to roll out with both php and node.js. I don't know why you would need both. Edit: Yes, I see each has it's strengths. But that has to drive a lot of doing the same thing twice, in two languages...they both interact with the same data. I would guess time-to-market is important at launch to re…

Nothing wrong with PHP, just use the right tool for the job, and the right tool is based on existing skills, time to market, requirements, etc. If PHP fits the bill, use PHP

That's not what I said though. I'm asking why php AND node.js. One or the other should suffice.

For websockets, as an example, HHVM+proxygen should be as performant as node. Or, node should be roughly as good as php for developer speed on the normal, not-websockets side of the house.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

#62

Post by root_axis »

What will the moderation policy be like? Will forums in the vein of former subreddits like coontown and jailbait be welcome?

Also, why choose a domain so close to voat.co for a reddit alternative? Whether you're a fan/user of voat.co or not, i can see them being easily confused or mistaken as related projects. They could have at least gone with another tld.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

#63

Post by seibelj »

tyingq wrote: post #61
seibelj wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing wrong with PHP, just use the right tool for the job, and the right tool is based on existing skills, time to market, requirements, etc. If PHP fits the bill, use PHP

That's not what I said though. I'm asking why php AND node.js. One or the other should suffice. For websockets, as an example, HHVM+proxygen should be as performant as node. Or, node should be roughly as good as php for developer speed on the normal, not-websockets side of the house.

In a microservices architecture, you might have many languages. And if you have a PHP developer and a node.js dev, and you are trying to deliver as fast as possible, that could be a reason to split it up.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

#64

Post by root_axis »

dkhenry wrote: post #36
covercash wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being shadow banned has no impact on what content you see so if you just want a better front page experience, try creating an account and joining smaller subreddits that are more aligned to your interests. I don't think I have a single default sub on my front page anymore.

Right and then try to participate in the conversation, and you can't, but since its a shadow ban you don't even know that you can't participate. In general your giving traffic and ad dollars to people who seem more interested in pressing a narrative then providing content.

What is the supposed narrative that shadowbans intend to foster?

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

#65

Post by tyingq »

seibelj wrote: post #63
tyingq wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not what I said though. I'm asking why php AND node.js. One or the other should suffice. For websockets, as an example, HHVM+proxygen should be as performant as node. Or, node should be roughly as good as php for developer speed on the normal, not-websockets side of the house.

In a microservices architecture, you might have many languages. And if you have a PHP developer and a node.js dev, and you are trying to deliver as fast as possible, that could be a reason to split it up.

Writing everything twice for the speculative success of a brand new Reddit clone doesn't qualify as "deliver as fast as possible" to me.

Edit: For clarity, I mean there would be significant overlap in areas like data retrieval, sessions/auth, etc.

A Reddit like app would have read/write to and from the browser and to and from the database for many data structures. Users, admins, moderators, topic areas, topics, threads, users, etc. And different views depending on context. You see more of your own profile, less of others...and similar for moderated topic areas and so forth. So, 2 platforms means duplication of some of this data access, update, marshalling, acls, sessions, etc.

Assuming the node.js part is for the "real time posts", via websockets, it would need most of the above. Then, assuming php is handling the rest, including profile edit, rendering everything but the posts, etc...it also needs most of the above.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

#66

Post by zzzzz_ »

SquareWheel wrote: post #46
douchechill wrote: post #34

What do you mean? I for one not only had a chuckle over morning coffee, but, learned a few things about what I would do and not do for my own startup. That's my opinion on the original comment. My opinion on you is that your feelings are too sensitive and are muddying your rationale here. "What new platforms need, is less of this." I disagree, brutal honesty goes a long way.

Flagging this comment. Creating a throwaway named "douche chill" just to reply to somebody might as well be a direct insult.

I'm surprised my comment sunk the way it, as did this topic and then it reappears with some mysteriously positive comments. All I'll say is strange.

But if you think I'd bother registering another account just to reply to a random comment you're overestimating how much importance I place on dissenting views to my opinions.

The douche chill account is weird though, whoever it is registered simply to agree with me. I'm flattered I guess :)

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

#67

Post by [deleted] »

SquareWheel wrote: post #46
douchechill wrote: post #34

What do you mean? I for one not only had a chuckle over morning coffee, but, learned a few things about what I would do and not do for my own startup. That's my opinion on the original comment. My opinion on you is that your feelings are too sensitive and are muddying your rationale here. "What new platforms need, is less of this." I disagree, brutal honesty goes a long way.

Flagging this comment. Creating a throwaway named "douche chill" just to reply to somebody might as well be a direct insult.

[deleted]

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

#68

Post by seibelj »

tyingq wrote: post #65
seibelj wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a microservices architecture, you might have many languages. And if you have a PHP developer and a node.js dev, and you are trying to deliver as fast as possible, that could be a reason to split it up.

Writing everything twice for the speculative success of a brand new Reddit clone doesn't qualify as "deliver as fast as possible" to me. Edit: For clarity, I mean there would be significant overlap in areas like data retrieval, sessions/auth, etc. A Reddit like app would have read/write to and from the browser and to and from the database for many data structures. Users, admins, moderators, topic areas, topics, threa…

I seriously doubt they are cloning all of their features in 2 languages, I think they are just splitting up features into different tech stacks.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

#70

Post by dvorwak »

seibelj wrote: post #58
tyingq wrote: post #2

"The app itself is powered by Laravel, Vue.js, Socket.io, and Node" Is there another Laravel other than the php one? Seems odd to roll out with both php and node.js. I don't know why you would need both. Edit: Yes, I see each has it's strengths. But that has to drive a lot of doing the same thing twice, in two languages...they both interact with the same data. I would guess time-to-market is important at launch to re…

Nothing wrong with PHP, just use the right tool for the job, and the right tool is based on existing skills, time to market, requirements, etc. If PHP fits the bill, use PHP

Probably just Laravel for their API and Node + Vue (if they aren't using laravel elixir for the frontend) so that they can more easily do server side rendering via express.
Post reply on HN