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When You Accidentally Break Your School Network in 1995

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Re: When You Accidentally Break Your School Network in 1995

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I have a story from the other side. In the late 90s my university RA position involved installing and maintaining a network in a nearby school district. One day, a teacher at a junior high indicated that one of his brighter students was "messing around" with one of the workstations. I took a look, and sure enough he had rebooted it with a linux CD-ROM distro. No problem. However, there were clearly multiple logins for people who weren't students, and the server was accesible from outside the network. Problem. Further tracking led us to a password sniffer installed back at the university, which in the 90s was serious business (and a whole other story).

Once the teacher understood what was going on, he quickly ran it up the chain and we wound up in a vice principal's office with an SRO and the boy's parents (SRO = School Resource Officer). I was a pretty bright kid in high school and the one time I wound up in a vice principal's office, it was pretty unpleasant. However, when the kid walked in I think he outdid me -- he instantly went #ffffff and almost fell over. To his credit, once he started breathing again he was honest and open about what he did. I tried to emphasize that he didn't act out of any bad motive, so I'm pretty sure the worst punishment he received was that office experience.

In retrospect, I'm glad I was there because (even as a college student) I had enough credibility to explain the situation. I did not keep up with the student, but I hope he went on to much career success.

Re: When You Accidentally Break Your School Network in 1995

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In 1998 I installed the NetBus server on computers in the computerlab at my school. I would then run the NetBus client on a computer in a secluded corner, and watch the reaction from people while I messed with their computer. The best reactions I got from randomly opening and closing the CD-tray. Good times.

I had a friend sometime around then who did a similar thing at his small office. They would play Age of Empires after work and he would use it to cheat and see where on the map everyone was. He was smart enough to remove it before anyone knew

Re: When You Accidentally Break Your School Network in 1995

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When I was 11 years old or so, I did not yet have a computer of my own but I had taken an interest in computers and wanted to learn more about them than just playing games. First and foremost I wanted to command computers to do my bidding. To create my own games and so on. So I read a couple of books and magazines and wrote a bunch on paper. My father had a computer that he would let me borrow at times. One time my f…

But the school IT admin didn't know. (Makes sense, students probably trigger the antivirus on a daily basis so even if the antivirus software did have reporting functionality the IT admin probably wasn't making use of it.)

So when nothing happened for a while, I continued my investigation. I learned that by splitting a file so that you have a file with the first byte of the original file in it, a file with the first two bytes, a file with the first three bytes in it and so on, and then looking at which file in the sequence was the first to be discovered by the antivirus, you could learn what part of the file the antivirus was fingerprinting (nowadays antivirus is more sophisiticated and applies more than just fingerprinting but at the time at least the one they were using at school was operating in this fashion), and you could edit nearby values with a hexeditor hoping that the byte you changed would alter the fingerprint without breaking the program. If you were lucky a text string was part of the fingerprint and could be altered without consequence to the function of the program.

So with a version of FakeGina.dll that I had modified in the fashion just mentioned, I installed it on a few of the school computers. A handful of computers in one of the computer labs and a couple of classroom computers.

Because I had installed the keylogger on a couple of classroom computers and because teachers were using those computers, I ended up with the passwords of not other student accounts but also some teacher accounts.

I was about ready to tell the school about what I had found but not until I first bragged to some of my friends, a couple of which asked if they could have the admin password so that they could install some games on the school computers. Sure, why not. Just don't tell anyone about it, I said. Basic op-sec failure. If I didn't want others aside from my friends to know, I shouldn't have told my friends either.

One of the people I bragged to told one of his friends and that friend told the principal about it.

One of my friends heard that that other guy had told the principal about it because that other guy told other people that he'd told the principal. My friend sent me a message on facebook to warn me about it but I wasn't logged onto facebook so I was sitting at the computer lab blissfully unaware of what was going on. Even if I'd known it wouldn't have mattered. Once they know it's too late.

So one of the school staff marches into the computer lab with a stern look on her face, says "come with me". I paniced and looked around, considered jumping out of the window as we were only about half of a story above street level but decided that since none of the windows were open there was no point in trying that.

She escorts me out of the computer lab and I ask "what's going on", trying to sound normal but my voice was shivering. She didn't answer, just kept walking alongside of me guiding me towards the principals office.

I knew that the principal was a nice person so I hoped that I would be able to explain what my initial motivation had been and that I was sorry that I had gotten carried away.

The principal was a nice person but he was also concerned about what I'd done and the impact of it, and the fact that I had logged teacher passwords meant that I could in theory have altered report cards, and that that amounts to falsification of official documents or somesuch and so on.

In the end I was expelled from school for three days and the school reported me to the police.

At this point I had recently turned 18 years old so the school told me that they could not inform my parents of this without my consent, and neither would the police be able to, so I told them that I did not want them to inform my parents of it.

A couple of weeks later the school told me to go to a local police office for questioning, which I did. The police officer that questioned me was a likeable person. Not friendly but not hostile either. Simply serious and factual.

In the end, I was given a fine of about $600 and the incident was recorded on my criminal record, which up until then had been clean.

My father found out about it when a letter arrived in our mailbox, sealed and addressed to me but with the name of the governmental entity that collects fines on it. When I got home he was sitting at the table with the letter. He was visibly upset. He had not opened the letter because he couldn't but instead he told me to open it in front of him. I said I didn't want to but he said that I had to so I did. The letter did not say what it was about, just the amount of money I had to pay and when I had to pay. So instead I had to tell him everything and I did and he was upset with me for a very long time. Since then I have regained his trust.

At first I was upset that someone "ratted me out", as I saw it. Esecially since not only was he a friend of a friend, but he was also a person I had had classes with and while we were never friends perhaps, we did have some sort of bond through our shared passion for programming.

Over time, I have come to realize that his alerting the principal about what was going on was the best thing that could have happened.

I was headed down a path that could have landed me in a much worse position.

Thanks to him, it stopped there.

I am a different person now. My fasination with computers remains but I have learned to adhere to the policies and the laws that apply to systems, as well as being respectful of the privacy of others in a manner that I clearly wasn't when I thought it was ok to keylog the account credentials of my fellow students. (Thankfully though I never was tempted to read other peoples e-mail, personal files etc., and most of the other students in my school were impressed with, not mad at, what I'd done once it became known.)

Some of my recklessness and disregard may have been due to lack of maturity, some of it due to lack of experience (where up until then anything I did with a computer always was undoable with a red little floppy disk, since up until then only myself was affected by my actions on the computer). Still, as I said, I think that if it hadn't stopped when it did, I might have ended up a very different person.

Re: When You Accidentally Break Your School Network in 1995

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Well, I used "the internet" to avoid suspension in high school. It was 1995, and I had made a fake parking permit for Fairview Hugh school in Boulder Colorado using Corel draw and Kinko's. The junior class president--my arch enemy--found out and narked. I got pulled into the principal's office and was threatened with suspension. When they asked me how I made it, I told them I downloaded it from the internet. I explai…

> revenge being best served cold (it's a saying in French)

It's also a saying in English, one that translates well.

Re: When You Accidentally Break Your School Network in 1995

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I had to personally apologise to the IT department because I sent a message from 'God' saying "I saw what you did last night" to the entire network (long time ago but it was Novell something) by mistake (was aiming to send it to just the one computer lab). They thought it was hilarious and that was the end of the matter.

I got suspended for teaching kids to use Winpopup in Highschool...

These stories are all too familiar, probably to many here of a certain age.

I actually got expelled from my school (in Scotland) for installing the 'MacinTalk' network chat software on our Business Studies AppleTalk network with about ten Mac Classics. The time I only got suspended was for using Prestel via the Computer department's (only) modem, after shoulder-surfing the password for the school account when a teacher demonstrated 'the future of computers' to us. The look of uncomprehending fear on the teacher's face as they ran into the computer lab after being told I was using the modem was priceless. I eventually had to go to an entirely different school to study for my Higher Computing, because none of the teachers at my school were competent enough to teach it.

Re: When You Accidentally Break Your School Network in 1995

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Stuff like this is still happening. I graduated high school in 2012. During our final semester, my friend decided to try logging in to the school router. He thought it would be passworded, but it was completely open. He shared this info with me and a couple other friends. We had fun for a bit restarting the router when we wanted to mess with a boring teacher, but eventually one of them set a password, the school IT g…

This is actually happening right now with me at my college. There are routers, MySQL databases with default username password combinations. The college have installed CCTV cameras a while ago and you guessed right, they are accessible with default username password. I used nmap to find them.

I am going to report what I found to Principal.

Re: When You Accidentally Break Your School Network in 1995

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got suspended for teaching kids to use Winpopup in Highschool...

These stories are all too familiar, probably to many here of a certain age. I actually got expelled from my school (in Scotland) for installing the 'MacinTalk' network chat software on our Business Studies AppleTalk network with about ten Mac Classics. The time I only got suspended was for using Prestel via the Computer department's (only) modem, after shoulder-surfing the password for the school account when a teach…

When I was been 'taught' VB (shudder) the lecturer had 'Teach Yourself VB in 24 hours' on his desk, I used to go in before hand to make sure he was up to speed on what he'd be teaching.

Lovely guy and a good teacher just dumped into teaching something he wasn't remotely qualified to teach.

It was an interesting situation though since it taught me the value of been an autodidact early.

Re: When You Accidentally Break Your School Network in 1995

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I nearly got expelled for learning how to use Flash 8 in middle school to make games.

Wow. What kind of games?

KETM spaceship games, nothing super exciting. I got kicked off the computers before I got a whole game put together.
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