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I'm currently using vim and I'm quite happy with it. I don't use many plugins, so better support for plugins is not very helpful to me. Are there other reasons why I should switch to Neovim?
I'm currently using vim and I'm quite happy with it. I don't use many plugins, so better support for plugins is not very helpful to me. Are there other reasons why I should switch to Neovim?
Faster startup, mouse works as you'd expect in a regular desktop app. Switch panes, tabs, open new tab, scroll panes, resize panes, select ranges, all in the terminal. I know not using the mouse is one of the reasons why one would choose vim, but the mouse really is faster/more intuitive in some situations.
Not trying to come off as confrontational, just my 2¢.
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Vim is also community driven. Having a BDFL doesn't mean that the model is bad. Python, Linux all have BDFLs and they are blossoming. Also, saying that Vim wouldn't have gotten the async features without Neovim is wrong. It would have come in sooner or later, Neovim sure made it a priority.
The main reason NeoVim exists at all is because Bram Moolenaar refused to accept any patches for async support. People already did the work for him and he didn't want it. So they decided to write their own text editor that supported async plugins. Bram got butthurt and didn't want to lose a large portion of his user base, so he added async support. NeoVim's first public release (version 0.1) was released in December…
VIM has been a stellar project that is due a lot of respect. Even the funding for VIM is reflected back to giving to Uganda children charity.
> NeoVim exists at all is because Bram Moolenaar refused to accept any patches for async support. People already did the work for him and he didn't want it.
Untrue: "It's going to be an awful lot of work, with the result that not all systems will be supported, new bugs introduced and what's the gain for the end user exactly?
Total refactoring is not a solution. It's much better to improve what we have. Perhaps with some small refactorings specifically aimed at making Vim work better for users." Brian Moolenaar https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/vim_dev/x0BF9Y0Uby...
NeoVIM kind of said that VIM was just a mess and it would be impossible to grown past where it is. To me this was worst then Ubuntu having it's own Unity and Mir. This was just drama and seemed over the top disrespectful to Brian.
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maybe neovim-remote is what you want? https://github.com/mhinz/neovim-remote
Close, but not enough. I want to open the same editor session spread across multiple windows on multiple monitors.
Caveats: if you depend on plugins to give you an IDE-like experience in Vim, kak is not for you. Your vim plugins won't work. If you use Windows but don't want to use Cygwin, kak is not for you.
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The diffwrence in performance is hhuuuugggee! Vim lags on my project, nvim doesnt! Quadcorei5, 16hb ram!
What are you doing that makes Vim lag? In my experience (on much weaker hardware) it only lags noticeably when you do wildly unusual stuff, e.g. huge files or files with huge lines.
I have been using Vim as my primary editor for many years and am happy with it. People I know who use developer editors are split between Vim and Emacs. Neovim usage is minimal. Why? It is an honest question. I see developers of the editor happy, which is a good thing, but IMO to get more users NV must show why it is better from a user perspective -- have several demos on the powerful things easily achieved with NV t…
Without neovim, vim wouldn't have gotten the async features. The fact that it's a community driven project and not dictated by one single BDFL makes it a lot more sympathetic for me.
With this I wholeheartedly agree. Without NV async would likely still be on the Vim wishlist. And if neovim wants a small donation I will gladly do that to say thanks.
However, now Vim does have async support as well, this use case is gone. NV needs to find the next one (and next and next). If their code is cleaner and easier to work on they will permanently overtake vim in features sooner rather than later.
I use Neovim on daily basis. It works really well. It requires tremendous efforts and love to transform a huge archaic code base into a much modern one. Thanks, Neovim team!
This can be said for any rewrite. Let's wait and see what happens to Neovim's code in coming 10-15 years if it can last that long. When you have to support all the legacy systems and all types of OSes out there, crap is going to come in the code.
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Honestly for me the main reason was that it finally has builtin `:terminal`. The plugins for use with vim have always been slightly buggy for me.
Can you please elaborate how you make use of the built in terminal emulation of neovim? Whenever I see a mention I think "neat" but have yet to integrate it into my workflow.
I do use psql's `\e` command to open the previous query in your `$EDITOR`, but that only lets me get the single previous query, and throws out any comments.