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The important feature is that on the iPhone it will actually work. Also, there will be enough distribution to actually establish video calls on a regular basis (because both ends have an iPhone).

Except you have to call first to verify that whoever you are calling is on wifi. In Europe where wifi is something you have to search for and 3G is something which is everywhere, this renders the feature absolutely useless.

Going by the comment on "working with carriers", I believe folks in Europe will be able to video chat over 3G in the not-too-distant future.

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Is it just me, or is Jonathan Ive the only Apple exec able to convincingly recreate Job's reality distortion field?

Every time one of these videos comes out, a bunch of guys are paraded out, each one trying to imp Job's style, vocabulary, and delivery, but each one coming across as some guy trying to copy someone else, rather than exude their own sense of style and originality.

To be even less charitable and more cynical, it comes across as a bunch of corporate suits with succession on their minds, all believing that Job's unique style and power of persuasion are necessary to sustain Apple when he eventually steps down, and that the most likely candidate to succeed him will be someone who most effectively recreates those traits as CEO.

But if so, they miss the mark, in that those traits can't be copied. They can't exist if they're not authentic, if they don't originate from the strength of a unique individual's vision, passion, and frame. You don't get those by mimicking someone else in the hope of increasing your odds in the corporate succession game.

Without looking them all up on Wikipedia, I'm sure they are all highly accomplished in their own rights, driven and passionate about what they do, thankful to have amazing jobs at the coolest company in the universe (Google excepted; not taking sides, but that's a debate for another thread), and have even contributed to and influenced Steve Jobs' vision and direction at times.

But none of them is Steve Jobs, and never will be, and the harder they try the more obvious that is. Only Ive comes across as someone with as strong a sense of individuality and frame as Jobs, and that's because of all the execs, he tries the least to mimic Steve, if at all.

He has nothing to prove, having lead designed practically all of Apple's products since Steve returned to Apple, and acts like it. The difference is subtle, but to me, very apparent in videos like this.

EDIT: To unharsh on those guys a bit, they're much more successful than I, and probably 99% of all other human beings are at this point. So /salute to them for that.

But that makes me wonder even more why they seem to feel the need to try to recreate Jobs' style, instead of developing their own. Surely, to get where they are, they have an abundance of talent and a wealth of experience, all of which should contribute to a strong frame, and the lack of a need to copy someone else's.

To reduce Jobs down to the essentials, I think it's really his frame, and his ability to frame Apple's products, that is the crux of his RDF and marketing ability. But there are equally effective ways to accomplish that without aping his vocabulary (pro tip - only Jobs can use the word 'exciting' to describe Baudrillardian consumer products without a hint of irony or corporate BS jargon; no one else should even attempt it).

I wish these guys would realize that and find their own path, be their own person.

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I love how Apple focuses on emotion -- those family FaceTime videos were so moving. Intersection of Liberal Arts & Technology, indeed. Well done, Apple.

They did that back in 2004 when iChat AV was introduced, and AV didn't disrupt or shift habits away from traditional audio and text. I think video conferencing is a great feature no doubt, but it's largely too intrusive for most people. Certainly making it more accessible and standardized will help some however, even amongst the most savvy early adopters (and MM+ of college students with MacBooks), video chatting has…

iChat AV has always had an interesting usability / interaction issue.

Because the camera is located on the display bezel, and not in the middle of the screen where the video window sits, you can't ever make full eye contact with the person you're talking to. It makes the entire conversation feel a little "off".

I've always thought this was a subtle yet important reason computer-based video chat never took off, and was super excited by patents that hinted that Apple was going to put the camera behind the display.

Hopefully the new iPhone 4 camera is close enough to the display to make eye contact possible.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except you have to call first to verify that whoever you are calling is on wifi. In Europe where wifi is something you have to search for and 3G is something which is everywhere, this renders the feature absolutely useless.

Going by the comment on "working with carriers", I believe folks in Europe will be able to video chat over 3G in the not-too-distant future.

No, you don't get it. Folks in Europe have been able to videochat since the first UMTS phones came out.

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Is it just me, or is Jonathan Ive the only Apple exec able to convincingly recreate Job's reality distortion field? Every time one of these videos comes out, a bunch of guys are paraded out, each one trying to imp Job's style, vocabulary, and delivery, but each one coming across as some guy trying to copy someone else, rather than exude their own sense of style and originality. To be even less charitable and more cyn…

Yeah I get the same feeling, not about copying or anything but they don't really convince, they don't really have that kind of persuasion Jobs has. Apart from Ive, and even with Ive he's persuasive in "one to one", but his talk feels too intimate, it doesn't really work when you're not alone in front of your screen. But in any case, Ive does come off as believing every single word he says with all of his being, the same way Jobs does. And that is convincing.

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I won't put quicktime on this machine, so I haven't seen the video. Do they mention the speed of the processor in the video? I'm suspicious of the actual processor speed since it wasn't mentioned in the coverage I saw of the event, and it's not mentioned here: http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html

They don't mention the frequency at any point, only that it's an A4. Notice that they don't say anything about RAM either.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The important feature is that on the iPhone it will actually work. Also, there will be enough distribution to actually establish video calls on a regular basis (because both ends have an iPhone).

Except you have to call first to verify that whoever you are calling is on wifi. In Europe where wifi is something you have to search for and 3G is something which is everywhere, this renders the feature absolutely useless.

I don't have to search for wifi at home or in the office, and that's where I spend most of the time.

Even so, I'm pretty sure Apple has thought this through, making it quick and easy to discover if someone is online, and even invite them through push notifications.

They did mention that they "had some details to work out" with the operators, which means that we will probably see video calls on 3G at some point in the future.

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> Why do you think that ultra-durability is to make it easy to change the batteries? What? Why do you think I think that?

Because that's the only way to parse the durability of glass being mooted by the fixedness of the battery. Maybe you meant "until I can swap the battery, I don't care what changes they make to the case" or something similar? It's genuinely a confusing point as currently phrased.

I parsed it as "The overall lifetime of a phone is generally limited by the death of it's battery rather than the glass. If the battery could be replaced, the durability of components would be more of an issue."

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You have to give it to Apple, they are the masters of marketing. It does not matter if all these functionalities existed long before before, they make it seem like a new invention. Just like Mac books, the iPhone will have a small market share but will be very profitable for Apple.

How many phones have 300+ DPI IPS screens?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Ericsson_Xperia_X1

Not IPS, but then it is nearly 2 years old. 311 ppi.

There's been a bunch that have been in the 200-300 range but apparently they don't count as 300 is the magic number (assuming you are holding your phone a specific, yet unspecified, distance from your face).

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I don't get it. Videoconferencing is insanely old and never took off. First there was ISDN video conferencing.. apart from the job at a telco i did once i've never actually seen one that was used. Second, the first UMTS mobile i got had video conferencing, that's really a long time ago (Motorola V980 btw.) and many UMTS phones shipped with the second camera for years now. Yet, noone ever used it. Atleast i've never s…

The important feature is that on the iPhone it will actually work. Also, there will be enough distribution to actually establish video calls on a regular basis (because both ends have an iPhone).

This would seem useful if you could do it over 3G. As someone mentioned, that's been done in Europe for something like 5 years.

Otherwise, being able to video chat over wifi -- skype (and ichat, though ichat seems much more picky about firewalls) has done that for years, too. Yeah, true, now you'll be able to do it without your laptop (but still have wifi), but it's not like it's some kind of revolutionary leap...

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