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Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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For me -- and, I suspect, many others -- this is too little too late. Just a few months ago, I spent somewhere around $4500 (all-in) putting together a new workstation. It runs Linux instead of OS X and this has led to me using my (4-year-old) ThinkPad more than my (18-month-old) MacBook Pro (when I'm "on the go"). I actually plan on selling the MBP; I just haven't gotten around to it yet. I'm sure this is great news…

It's never too late for me to look at potentially better alternatives. I would never work myself into a situation where switching to an alternative major OS would be extremely hard. But sure, depending on what you work with, that can of course happen -- issues like software unavailable on said target platform. Disregarding that though, I prefer not to close doors by free will.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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a pro machine that demanded placement on your desk, not under your desk

... and that's how Apple lost the professionals. The desk is a clean space for a huge monitor / keyboard / mouse, and MY work. It's good to make a workstation that looks nice, but it's ten times as good to make one that's flexible and powerful. The only people who want that workstation on the desktop are the designers at Apple, and stroking your own ego isn't on the path to making a great product.

Every great designer knows that form follows function.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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I don't get it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oasqjPHpxyI Obi-Wan: "That boy is our last hope." Yoda: "No...there is another..."

I know the reference, but I don't understand what is meant by referring to it as "the last hope" and what/why something else is an alternative to that.

That a Linux based system is an alternative for a powerful Unixy system?

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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post #5

For me -- and, I suspect, many others -- this is too little too late. Just a few months ago, I spent somewhere around $4500 (all-in) putting together a new workstation. It runs Linux instead of OS X and this has led to me using my (4-year-old) ThinkPad more than my (18-month-old) MacBook Pro (when I'm "on the go"). I actually plan on selling the MBP; I just haven't gotten around to it yet. I'm sure this is great news…

Mac Pro, not MacBook Pro.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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This is an incredibly weird thing... Inviting a bunch of bloggers into a room and saying that they're sorry, but they have great stuff down the line? It feels incredibly un-Apple.

I think Gruber addresses this pretty well: they already took the silent approach, but it was becoming unsustainable with their pro market, whose needs were not being met. If they just did a small hardware bump, they'd be projecting that they'd given up on the pro and they'd lose a lot of loyalty and goodwill. People can only wait so long so this info helps to keep them interested and bring the term "Apple" back into…

Missing the point though. It's not just the hardware, it's the trust.

A lot of pros will be thinking "So why should I buy New MacPro if they're only going to let the line stagnate again?"

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Where do you recommend for someone that wants to build one?

The TonyMac community has some great resources, including guides to the hardware: https://www.tonymacx86.com/buyersguide/march/2017 There was also a great hackintosh discussion on HN a couple days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13901752

Their utilities (Multibeast, Unibeast, Kextbeast...) are well-though and easy to use, but it worth noting that Tonymacx86 doesn't have any plans to open source them -- you have to trust him (no one seems to know his real name, mostly for legal reasons related to Apple I think) to execute binaries with root rights on your fresh OS, or go the Vanilla (and harder) way.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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You can run linux on the MBP. It's a pretty good combination.

Not sure on the specifics of an 18-month-old MBP vs. this list, but nothing is guaranteed. https://github.com/Dunedan/mbp-2016-linux State of Linux on the MacBook Pro 2016 Not Working: • Audio input & output • Bluetooth • Keyboard backlight • Suspend & Hibernation • Touch ID • Wi-Fi

Kernel 4.9 fixes a bunch of those (the Wi-Fi for instance).

I've had a similar experience with the Air but it works well with the newer kernels (including the SSD, which was the main problem for me).

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