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Re: Changes to USCIS policy on eligibility criteria for H1B visa

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Post by trustfundbaby »

molyss wrote: post #12

highly disingenuous article. Should be "computer programmers without degree will have to prove their specialty to be eligible to H1B visa". And all of a sudden, it becomes way less scary. Apparently, having a bachelor's degree and a job in computer science was enough, under certain policies, to be H1B eligible. that the bachelor degree might have been in chemistry or in art wasn't relevant to the old policy. The new…

I think its a bit more than that ... specifically the jobs themselves have to be shown to be requiring Specialized engineering knowledge.

> Companies applying for H-1B visas for computer programming positions will have to submit additional evidence showing that the jobs are complex or specialized and require professional degrees

Re: Changes to USCIS policy on eligibility criteria for H1B visa

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Post by throwaway71958 »

lephty wrote: post #16

If the workers cannot come to the US, won't the work go to the workers? I think we will see more off-shoring to get around this and other work-visa restrictions talked about by the administration. While the outsourcing companies _love_ sending bodies to the US (which enables them to bill the best rate for the same person/work), they can continue their work in their offshore locations.

Have you tried to manage projects across timezones and cultures? Usually the way this works is all of the outsourced work has to be redone in the US anyway, at twice the original cost.

Re: Changes to USCIS policy on eligibility criteria for H1B visa

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Post by acchow »

inputcoffee wrote: post #9

I wish there was a way to distinguish the quality of a worker from the degrees of a worker. Its not just that one wants a "computer technology worker", but one wants an individual who can communicate, work hard when needed, take on responsibility, easily read and comprehend instructions and so on. These are weakly correlated with degrees or how technical a field of study is. An art history undergrad could easily disp…

  I wish there was a way to distinguish the quality of a worker from the degrees of a worker.
Like money?

Re: Changes to USCIS policy on eligibility criteria for H1B visa

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Post by tn135 »

dirtybird04 wrote: post #56
inputcoffee wrote: post #9

I wish there was a way to distinguish the quality of a worker from the degrees of a worker. Its not just that one wants a "computer technology worker", but one wants an individual who can communicate, work hard when needed, take on responsibility, easily read and comprehend instructions and so on. These are weakly correlated with degrees or how technical a field of study is. An art history undergrad could easily disp…

It's really not that hard, Canada seems to have it figured out. You get points for job offer, education, experience, language, and family. If you graduate from a Canadian school, you get an open work-permit, not tied to any employer. Fast path to naturalization. Pretty good system imo. US has never really had a proper immigration program for graduates and skilled workers. H1B is a hackjob, and has outlived its useful…

US does not have immigration program for outsiders. H1B to Green card path is mostly co-incidental. H1B is a temporary work visa and the person is expected to show evidence he will go back to his home country.

Re: Changes to USCIS policy on eligibility criteria for H1B visa

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Post by rezashirazian »

EduardoBautista wrote: post #26
arcticbull wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For immigration purposes the distinction centers around the fact that developers 'merely' implement systems and software engineers are expected to design and implement systems. This is based on my experience with the TN status.

In this case, there is a lot of visa fraud out there.

No the problem is that the only job title available to individuals with a Computer Science degree under NAFTA is "Computer System Analyst"

Even though in US a computer scientist can have "Software Engineer" as her title, it's not so easy in Canada. The word 'Engineer' has a very specific definition.

In fact if you get a Software Engineer degree from a Canadian university you'd have to a take a somewhat different set of courses than someone who get a Computer Science degree.

It's over the top bureaucratic semantics in my opinion. Any individual with a CS degree is qualified for anything labeled as Software Engineering in the US or Canada.

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