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Re: System76 Galago Pro [video]

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Post by chrsm »

jaredandrews wrote: post #40
chrsm wrote: post #34

Over the past 4 years, I've bought two System76 machines (FD: work paid for them). Each time, I maxed out what I was able to get from them. Initially I had wanted to support a company that sells Linux-supported devices. My first machine - a Gazelle (laptop) - had numerous issues on arrival. It'd randomly crash. Keypresses would get stuck and repeat. It was annoying. After sending it in, I still had random issues unti…

I bought a System 76 desktop a couple years ago. I had extra $$ and like you, I wanted to support a company selling Linux devices. Previously, I had used Ubuntu on multiple laptops that did not have "hand picked" hardware. I was used to having to fix things randomly after updates and just running into hardware issues from time to time. I assumed that the selling point of System 76 was that because they chose the hard…

Absolutely a QA thing. I don't see how either of the devices I purchased got a seal of approval to go out to a customer.

I just don't see why I'd pay _extra_ for something I'm going to need to reconfigure myself, anyway. Might as well buy parts or generic prebuild and throw a better distribution on it.

Re: System76 Galago Pro [video]

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Post by windexh8er »

2bluesc wrote: post #12

As a previous gen System 76 Galago and now a proud Dell Precision 5510 owner, I wish them luck! I traded my previous gen System76 Galago Pro after 2-3 years of being disappointed with build quality, battery life also piss poor BIOS support for a company priding themselves on supporting the hardware (i.e. UEFI had to be hacked in from the identical Clevo, next to no options, no TPM, etc). We need more competitors in t…

I will say here that the 5510 is a far cry from a perfect machine. Dell replaced mine 4 times over 6+ months where I went weeks to a month at a time with an unusable machine. First machine would shut off whenever the laptop was moved while running. They "fixed" that machine over 1 week, got it back and it did the exact same thing. First replacement machine was different specs than the unit I sent them and it also had a blemish on the display panel even though it was brand new. After arguing with Dell for over a month regarding this machine they replaced it with another that would crash randomly, but reliably over the course of the day. Machine was sent back, "fixed" and returned over multiple months 3 times. Finally replaced again after letting the machine sit and collect dust for months after buying a replacement.

Dell has horrible support and while the product is "pretty" and feels well built - it is, IMO no better than anything else on the market today. I would NOT recommend a 5510. In fact there are many horror stories in their forums around it. Which is probably why they dropped it so fast for the 5520.

It is a great machine when it works right, but YMMV on quality.

Re: System76 Galago Pro [video]

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Post by windexh8er »

2bluesc wrote: post #45
Freak_NL wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Four year plus owner of a Gazelle here. The only thing that is 'wrong' with it is the battery (dead). Since I use the laptop on power exclusively this doesn't bother me. I could have replaced it though. All in all it is a very powerful and very nice laptop. Every time I look at a future replacement for this one I get stuck with this dilemma: System76.com: + I know that the laptop I buy will work with Linux; no painst…

> - Actually finding an XPS with Ubuntu in their shop Problem is that you're looking for XPS, I think they only do XPS + Ubuntu under their Sputnik program. If you look-up the Precision line, Ubuntu 16.04 from the factory is an option with a $101.50 discount over Win10 Pro. [0] [0] http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=xctop5...

Not true:

http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/555/campaigns/xps-linux-lapt...

Re: System76 Galago Pro [video]

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Post by thom »

mediaserf wrote: post #20
2bluesc wrote: post #12

As a previous gen System 76 Galago and now a proud Dell Precision 5510 owner, I wish them luck! I traded my previous gen System76 Galago Pro after 2-3 years of being disappointed with build quality, battery life also piss poor BIOS support for a company priding themselves on supporting the hardware (i.e. UEFI had to be hacked in from the identical Clevo, next to no options, no TPM, etc). We need more competitors in t…

The deal-breaker on the Dell Precision 5510 for me was the keyboard layout. I work on the command line and I need the pipe key on the right side of the keyboard and directly above the shift key. I have a new Thinkpad P50 and I am happy with that.

I'd be interested in people's views on these two product lines, as they're more or less what I'd settled on as a shortlist for my next machine.

Re: System76 Galago Pro [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

mediaserf wrote: post #20
2bluesc wrote: post #12

As a previous gen System 76 Galago and now a proud Dell Precision 5510 owner, I wish them luck! I traded my previous gen System76 Galago Pro after 2-3 years of being disappointed with build quality, battery life also piss poor BIOS support for a company priding themselves on supporting the hardware (i.e. UEFI had to be hacked in from the identical Clevo, next to no options, no TPM, etc). We need more competitors in t…

The deal-breaker on the Dell Precision 5510 for me was the keyboard layout. I work on the command line and I need the pipe key on the right side of the keyboard and directly above the shift key. I have a new Thinkpad P50 and I am happy with that.

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Re: System76 Galago Pro [video]

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Post by cwyers »

AndrewUnmuted wrote: post #57
bachmeier wrote: post #35

I've considered buying a System 76 laptop for years, but it's really hard to find satisfied customers. I'd be concerned if the reviews were largely positive but included a few from people with bad experiences - I don't want to be one of the unlucky few. That's not the case at all. There's almost unanimous agreement that these are poor quality machines.

I am a satisfied customer of System76. I own a Lemur laptop which I basically maxed out. I've had it since December, and am very pleased with the build quality, the keyboard, and the battery life. My suspicion is that a lot of people don't know how to configure a Linux OS for optimal laptop use. I imagine that even if one were to keep the Ubuntu installation that comes with the unit there are many further optimizatio…

Why on Earth would you want to buy a laptop from a specialty Linux laptop vendor (at more expense for the same specs than a standard Windows OEM laptop) if you just need to optimize the installed Linux to get good battery life? Isn't that supposed to be the value-add of buying from a vendor that specializes in Linux laptops?

Re: System76 Galago Pro [video]

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Post by abeyer »

jethro_tell wrote: post #30
Freak_NL wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also no serial RS232 port, no SCSI port, not even a floppy drive. /s

To be fair, a track point has to go right in the middle of the keyboard to be of any value. A USB serial is functional as a dongle for the subset of people that need that. Same for floppy and scsi for that matter.

Given that almost everyone has gone to chiclet keys with space between keycaps, I'm almost surprised that no one has tried to market a glue-on bluetooth track point for those who demand them.

Re: System76 Galago Pro [video]

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Post by znpy »

what is 'pro' about that?

On a ThinkPad I could, depending on the model:

- have multiple disks in my laptop

- have multiple batteries

- hostwap cdrom drives with a hard drive or a battery

- hostwap batteries

- have 4 ram sticks (W series)

- install coreboot/libreboot

- have nvidia quadro card

- have multi-core xeon processor

- have on site, next business day support (parts and labour)

- have fingerprint reader

- have hdaps

- have trackpoint+ultranav

- have on-board prng

So... What can this thing do, instead ??

Re: System76 Galago Pro [video]

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Post by imperialWicket »

bachmeier wrote: post #35

I've considered buying a System 76 laptop for years, but it's really hard to find satisfied customers. I'd be concerned if the reviews were largely positive but included a few from people with bad experiences - I don't want to be one of the unlucky few. That's not the case at all. There's almost unanimous agreement that these are poor quality machines.

I've got a 5 year old Leopard and a 1.5 year old Wild Dog that are perfectly satisfactory. I have a month old Oryx, and my sentiment follows the general comments - I'd probably spend just a little more to go Dell/Lenovo for the next laptop. The rebranded Clevo machines just aren't the same build quality and on a laptop (for many users) that's a meaningful issue.

Re: System76 Galago Pro [video]

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Post by devnull42 »

I ordered a System76 laptop about 4 years ago for work as my day to day machine. Almost immediately the HDMI port broke and I was pretty bummed out. I emailed their support hoping to get it repaired but they never actually fixed it. Since then I have never gone back to them. I want them to be great so badly but that just hasn’t been my experience.
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