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Re: Lbry.io – decentralized digital library

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Post by nananonymous »

CiPHPerCoder wrote: post #40

> Subsequent attempts to engage sincerely were also met with derision, so I'm not sure anything could have ever been done that wouldn't have been met similarly. Some people are like that, where if you respond to their snark, your response will be used against you to tarnish your reputation in the eyes of bystanders. It is important to never let them get the moral high ground. If someone says something like... * "Your…

This type of social control is so bizarre to me. Like, here's a literal script for you to read from if you'd like us to stop attacking you in the future.

Re: Lbry.io – decentralized digital library

#62

Post by tyingq »

kauffj wrote: post #57
tyingq wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are valid characters for an identifier? Can I have lbry://foo## for example?

It matches by claim id, which is a much longer hash, but the system will do partial matches. In the case of conflicting partial matches, the first claim (temporally) is resolved.

Edit: Ignore below...you already said earliest claim is preferred. I need to stop skimming. (or I missed a stealth edit?)

Ah, so everything after the # is random then. And if you choose to abbreviate, you are risking whatever the collision likelihood is, in 4 bit increments, assuming the hash is hex digits.

There doesn't appear to be a throttle on claims, so choosing to abbreviate with just one character could be risky? Or does your substring match prefer earliest claim?

Re: Lbry.io – decentralized digital library

#63

Post by ThinkingGuy »

pgl wrote: post #35

Would love a quick explanation of what this is, especially after clicking through to "Learn More"[0]. I don't want to watch a video, I don't want to read an essay, even the FAQ[1] (which wasn't exactly prominently linked to) doesn't seem to have a "What is LBRY?" anywhere. After a few minutes on this site, I still have no idea what this is. "Watch, read and play in a decentralized digital library controlled by the co…

I had a similar reaction. Playing a video is not practical or convenient for me right now. I was hopeful when I saw they had a FAQ link, but it unfortunately lacks what I believe should be the first entry of any "X FAQ," namely "What is X?"

Re: Lbry.io – decentralized digital library

#64

Post by CiPHPerCoder »

nananonymous wrote: post #61
CiPHPerCoder wrote: post #40

> Subsequent attempts to engage sincerely were also met with derision, so I'm not sure anything could have ever been done that wouldn't have been met similarly. Some people are like that, where if you respond to their snark, your response will be used against you to tarnish your reputation in the eyes of bystanders. It is important to never let them get the moral high ground. If someone says something like... * "Your…

This type of social control is so bizarre to me. Like, here's a literal script for you to read from if you'd like us to stop attacking you in the future.

> Like, here's a literal script for you to read from if you'd like us to stop attacking you in the future.

Us?

I'm talking about them, in a third person sense, not a first person sense.

Them, in this case, is meant to refer to trollish individuals looking to cause trouble under the facade of caring about the plight of women, people of color, etc. but actually are just in it for their own emotions. The people who want to stir the pot, not make things better.

Rather than a script furnished in a list of demands from said subset of the populace, this is more of a suggestion to defuse conflicts in a way that doesn't let them win.

Re: Lbry.io – decentralized digital library

#66

Post by mwambua »

kauffj wrote: post #52
pgl wrote: post #35

Would love a quick explanation of what this is, especially after clicking through to "Learn More"[0]. I don't want to watch a video, I don't want to read an essay, even the FAQ[1] (which wasn't exactly prominently linked to) doesn't seem to have a "What is LBRY?" anywhere. After a few minutes on this site, I still have no idea what this is. "Watch, read and play in a decentralized digital library controlled by the co…

It is tough to strike a balance between a good introduction for technical people and non-technical people. https://lbry.io/quickstart is good practical introduction. https://lbry.io/what is a more theoretical introduction. We've got a WIP new homepage (more of a wireframe) at https://lbry.io/home2 if you want to share any feedback!

I like this new page better. It gets straight to the point. I imagine readers coming in from HN would require a more technical intro, along the lines of this[https://matrix.org/].

Try and explain why we should be excited about this from a technical perspective... because it seems like technical people will be your first set of users.

EDIT: The TLDR from the essay at https://lbry.io/what looks pretty nice. Why don't you use that?

Re: Lbry.io – decentralized digital library

#67

Post by pgl »

kauffj wrote: post #52
pgl wrote: post #35

Would love a quick explanation of what this is, especially after clicking through to "Learn More"[0]. I don't want to watch a video, I don't want to read an essay, even the FAQ[1] (which wasn't exactly prominently linked to) doesn't seem to have a "What is LBRY?" anywhere. After a few minutes on this site, I still have no idea what this is. "Watch, read and play in a decentralized digital library controlled by the co…

It is tough to strike a balance between a good introduction for technical people and non-technical people. https://lbry.io/quickstart is good practical introduction. https://lbry.io/what is a more theoretical introduction. We've got a WIP new homepage (more of a wireframe) at https://lbry.io/home2 if you want to share any feedback!

Fair enough, I recognise that it's hard.

This article does a good job of introducing LBRY, btw: https://bryanalexander.org/2017/03/19/what-is-lbry-and-what-... (h/t @doctornemo).

I also saw it described as "A cross between Bitcoin and Napster", which was fairly illuminating. I'm sure you wouldn't consider it accurate, but as a starting point perhaps something like this would be useful to have?

At the very least, #1 on the FAQ should really be the answer to "What is LBRY?"

Re: Lbry.io – decentralized digital library

#68

Post by nananonymous »

CiPHPerCoder wrote: post #64
nananonymous wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This type of social control is so bizarre to me. Like, here's a literal script for you to read from if you'd like us to stop attacking you in the future.

> Like, here's a literal script for you to read from if you'd like us to stop attacking you in the future. Us? I'm talking about them, in a third person sense, not a first person sense. Them, in this case, is meant to refer to trollish individuals looking to cause trouble under the facade of caring about the plight of women, people of color, etc. but actually are just in it for their own emotions. The people who want…

Being forced to adopt others beliefs about diversity as their own is the definition of hegemony. You're taking part in making sure they have the "right" beliefs about business structure and hiring practices, and it's all the more insidious because you claim you're not.

Re: Lbry.io – decentralized digital library

#69

Post by CiPHPerCoder »

nananonymous wrote: post #68
CiPHPerCoder wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Like, here's a literal script for you to read from if you'd like us to stop attacking you in the future. Us? I'm talking about them, in a third person sense, not a first person sense. Them, in this case, is meant to refer to trollish individuals looking to cause trouble under the facade of caring about the plight of women, people of color, etc. but actually are just in it for their own emotions. The people who want…

Being forced to adopt others beliefs about diversity as their own is the definition of hegemony. You're taking part in making sure they have the "right" beliefs about business structure and hiring practices, and it's all the more insidious because you claim you're not.

> Being forced to adopt others beliefs about diversity as their own is the definition of hegemony.

Okay?

I really don't have any interest in where this conversation seems to be going.

If you're dealing with a troll, doing what I said will disarm 99% of their tactics. If you don't like that, take it up with the trolls.

If you, rather, have a problem with diversity itself, then let's end this discussion here.

EDIT:

> You're taking part in making sure they have the "right" beliefs about business structure and hiring practices, and it's all the more insidious because you claim you're not.

Okay, this is clearly not a discussion worth having.

Re: Lbry.io – decentralized digital library

#70

Post by nananonymous »

CiPHPerCoder wrote: post #69
nananonymous wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being forced to adopt others beliefs about diversity as their own is the definition of hegemony. You're taking part in making sure they have the "right" beliefs about business structure and hiring practices, and it's all the more insidious because you claim you're not.

> Being forced to adopt others beliefs about diversity as their own is the definition of hegemony. Okay? I really don't have any interest in where this conversation seems to be going. If you're dealing with a troll, doing what I said will disarm 99% of their tactics. If you don't like that, take it up with the trolls. If you, rather, have a problem with diversity itself, then let's end this discussion here. EDIT: > Y…

> Okay, this is clearly not a discussion worth having.

100% agreed.

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