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Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

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Post by pjmlp »

pornel wrote: post #50
LyalinDotCom wrote: post #32

Also folks should check out or comprehensive release notes: https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/news/releasenotes/vs2017-...

Sadly no mention of any improvements to their C compiler :( The C99 support is still incomplete and it looks like MS has given up on C.

It is called Visual C++ and hence the focus is on C++. The only C related updates are done to the extent as required by ANSI C++.

For anyone else that still wants to write straight C, there are other compilers and Microsoft has integrated clang's frontend with VC++ backend.

This has already been communicated in a few places.

Cloudfare's crash just proved once more why the world needs less C.

Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

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Post by mistermann »

eitland wrote: post #58
LyalinDotCom wrote: post #8

Its a great sense of relief to finally ship this product, we really hope folks give it a try and join our live keynote which is streaming now at http://launch.visualstudio.com

As a newcomer to .net I was really confused by the lacking refactoring support in Visual Studio (yes, things we spoiled Java brats take for granted like extract method, extract class, move to separate file etc). Is this available in VS 2017? Edit: and live unit testing! I was looking forward to that until I found out it was only available in the enterprise version. (And yes, here you have an edge on Java anyway I thi…

I think "most everyone" just uses Resharper - Microsoft kind of has a background of letting a healthy ecosystem of 3rd party addin providers exist, and only gradually incorporates the best features into the core product.

Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

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Post by miguelrochefort »

eitland wrote: post #58
LyalinDotCom wrote: post #8

Its a great sense of relief to finally ship this product, we really hope folks give it a try and join our live keynote which is streaming now at http://launch.visualstudio.com

As a newcomer to .net I was really confused by the lacking refactoring support in Visual Studio (yes, things we spoiled Java brats take for granted like extract method, extract class, move to separate file etc). Is this available in VS 2017? Edit: and live unit testing! I was looking forward to that until I found out it was only available in the enterprise version. (And yes, here you have an edge on Java anyway I thi…

- "Extract method" has always been supported.

- Resharper supports "Extract class" and "Move to separate file".

Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

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Post by yiwang110 »

LyalinDotCom wrote: post #33
erryoiruye wrote: post #28

Where did the ISO:s go? Please give us something with a known hash. I attempted to create the offline installer [1] but the vs_community.exe just silently quit after some mintues, having downloaded only some certificates. The custom download idea is easily planted with malware and all those bad things. Also, please consider upgrading from SHA-1. > We understand that a lot of customers want an offline installer for Vi…

Due to licensing complexity of today's installer we just can't make the ISO for you but in the link above as you pointed out you can create your own. We're sorry for that but its what we can offer today.

"Due to licensing complexity of today's installer" - LOL

If there is licensing complexity in making an ISO file, just make a ZIP file of the whole thing.

Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

n00b101 wrote: post #48

I'm excited to use VS 2017 and generally very pleased with their C++ language support and integrations like git and cmake. It's a minor nitpick, but I must say I was disappointed to see this issue unceremoniously closed: https://visualstudio.uservoice.com/forums/121579-visual-stud...

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Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

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Post by neilsimp1 »

erryoiruye wrote: post #28

Where did the ISO:s go? Please give us something with a known hash. I attempted to create the offline installer [1] but the vs_community.exe just silently quit after some mintues, having downloaded only some certificates. The custom download idea is easily planted with malware and all those bad things. Also, please consider upgrading from SHA-1. > We understand that a lot of customers want an offline installer for Vi…

Scott Hanselman had a blog post a while back about this. Maybe his instructions will help? (I haven't compared this against your instructions so for all I know they're the same steps.)

https://www.hanselman.com/blog/HowToMakeAnOfflineInstallerFo...

Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

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Post by tracker1 »

wmccullough wrote: post #23
LyalinDotCom wrote: post #8

Its a great sense of relief to finally ship this product, we really hope folks give it a try and join our live keynote which is streaming now at http://launch.visualstudio.com

I'm loving it already. I was able to update from RC to RTM within 20 minutes on two machines with no hiccups. I was expecting hours of downtime. This is great stuff!

Definitely sounds much better than <= 2015, where you may as well walk away for a few hours... and hope it doesn't hang for some weird reason.

Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

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Post by mistermann »

LyalinDotCom wrote: post #8

Its a great sense of relief to finally ship this product, we really hope folks give it a try and join our live keynote which is streaming now at http://launch.visualstudio.com

One complaint....the installer doesn't seem to show required disk space per component....with the features I've chose the install is 40 GB!!! I don't have nearly that room on my SSD but that's where I want it, but there's no way of knowing if I can pare my install down to fit in what I do have!
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