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Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by squeaky-clean »

Pxtl wrote: post #50
donquichotte wrote: post #10

I have tried Hydrogen some time ago when I tried to build a linux audio workstation with Jack and Ardour. As much as it pains me to say this, don't expect it to be even remotely as good as commercial software drum machines like EZDrummer, Superior Drummer or Studio Drummer in terms of sample quality or usability. Generally, I found it prohibitively complicated to set up a well-working low-latency audio workstation, e…

After hearing some oldschool electronica my 9-year old asked me about drum machines. Is there a good kid-friendly one you can recommend for win or android?

How about one in the browser? There are a lot out there, this is just the first one that came up in Google.

http://www.html5drummachine.com/

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by rzzzt »

digi_owl wrote: post #14
betaby wrote: post #8

Only I hear cracking sound at the end of every beat? Removing pulseaudio helps to shorten it but not completely eliminates.

Define "removing". Pulseaudio is a hard beast to put down.

Tame the beast with Cadence: http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Applications:Cadence

This control panel app includes support for a PulseAudio-to-JACK bridge, which makes (if I remember correctly) PulseAudio a wireable source and sink in the connection graph while the server is running.

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by baldfat »

tjr225 wrote: post #42
baldfat wrote: post #39

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I don't care what OS your on. When you start talking about latency it is all a nightmare. If latency isn't an issue then Pulse Audio works totally fine. I actually like Jack when it is concerning latency and think it is a good system. BUT it is a pain. I used 2 separate sound cards. One is a Pro level I/O breakout box that Jack controls and the on board sound card is controlled by PulseAudio.

I have no issues with latency on MacOS with absolutely zero configuration. It's one of the reasons I won't switch from MacOS to linux.

I then question your need for low latency? OS X and MacOS requires just as much work to get to the lowest latency and your handicapped if your have an Apple laptop. Your latency will be about the same as PusleAudio on Linux if you use default OS X MacOS settings. In most real world settings Windows will get a lower latency mostly due to better hardware on a Professional setup compared to the less then top end audio of Apple. Apple machine require a lot of engineering in the software to achieve low latency.

Here is the focusrite help page dealing with latency and what you must turn off for recording. https://support.focusrite.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207546515-Op...

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by Tenoke »

trickell wrote: post #11

Check out LMMS (Let's Make Music). It's like Ableton for Linux and already has VST's like Hydrogen, etc. built into the software itself: https://lmms.io/

I like LMMS but the funny thing about it is that some of the essential features (such as extrrnal VSTs) don't work on Linux (unless you set it up on wine, which has it's own issues).

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by diminish »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #57
diminish wrote: post #40

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>> ..only reason I have Windows installed on my private computer When you say Reaper, you lose me. I have used it for a long time and it's really the most basic of all the DAW alternatives.

> I have used it for a long time and it's really the most basic of all the DAW alternatives. You clearly haven't. The only possible way there's a shred of truth to this sentence is if you're referring to the included sample-sets/virtual instruments compared to other DAWs, which Reaper doesn't include many of.

you are wrong. I have.

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by diminish »

cdawzrd wrote: post #44
diminish wrote: post #40

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>> ..only reason I have Windows installed on my private computer When you say Reaper, you lose me. I have used it for a long time and it's really the most basic of all the DAW alternatives.

Having used both REAPER and Pro Tools professionally, my opinion is that REAPER is not basic at all -- it has every feature I have needed in a DAW, it's easy to use (for me, at least) and performs better than Pro Tools, at a far lower cost. It is one of my favorite pieces of commercial software.

Cost is low but 3rd party ecosystem including plugins is weak. It s like notepad++ of programming editors or winamp of music players. Effective, cheap, non innovative Yet OK.

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by diminish »

pierrec wrote: post #52
diminish wrote: post #40

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>> ..only reason I have Windows installed on my private computer When you say Reaper, you lose me. I have used it for a long time and it's really the most basic of all the DAW alternatives.

REAPER's feature set is huge, it's also one of the most customizable DAWs I've used. I know this kind of thing is pretty subjective, but even then, there is no way I could possibly call it "basic" compared to the most popular DAWs out there.

It's effective, cheap but non innovative and a me too product. I bet it won't exist in 10 years in DAW business. It's feature set is a "me too" set of everything which exists with minimal innovative features on top.

please don't misunderstand. I have no horse in this race. I like Reaper as much as I liked WinZip , winamp or Notepad++. But I wouldn't say it's enough to keep Windows installed on a private computer.

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by RileyKyeden »

diminish wrote: post #40
donquichotte wrote: post #10

I have tried Hydrogen some time ago when I tried to build a linux audio workstation with Jack and Ardour. As much as it pains me to say this, don't expect it to be even remotely as good as commercial software drum machines like EZDrummer, Superior Drummer or Studio Drummer in terms of sample quality or usability. Generally, I found it prohibitively complicated to set up a well-working low-latency audio workstation, e…

>> ..only reason I have Windows installed on my private computer When you say Reaper, you lose me. I have used it for a long time and it's really the most basic of all the DAW alternatives.

It comes with hundreds of effects, supports scripting, and has a huge library of user add-ons: http://stash.reaper.fm/

You must have a different definition of basic. I've never felt limited by Reaper.

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by thom_nic »

Pxtl wrote: post #50
donquichotte wrote: post #10

I have tried Hydrogen some time ago when I tried to build a linux audio workstation with Jack and Ardour. As much as it pains me to say this, don't expect it to be even remotely as good as commercial software drum machines like EZDrummer, Superior Drummer or Studio Drummer in terms of sample quality or usability. Generally, I found it prohibitively complicated to set up a well-working low-latency audio workstation, e…

After hearing some oldschool electronica my 9-year old asked me about drum machines. Is there a good kid-friendly one you can recommend for win or android?

I played with this one a bit and enjoyed it, as a novice: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mikrosonic... I also got G-Stomper during an Amazon sale although I haven't really played with it at all.

If you search the app store for "808" you'll find a lot of apps. The benefit is the original "real" 808 was relatively simple to use.

Re: Hydrogen – An advanced drum machine for Linux

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Post by adamsea »

stevehiehn wrote: post #51
zhengyi13 wrote: post #45

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It's not precisely your desire/use-case, but that sounds vaguely like you might like some of the programmatic sound generation systems out there: Overtone - http://overtone.github.io/ Tidal - https://tidalcycles.org/ Perhaps those might be hooked into something you're already building?

Thanks! I'm aware of super collider and it is cool. However i'm not interested in real-time. I have been generating midi patterns and rendering audio server-side over many hours. I've started hand rolling a system to play drum samples from generated patterns. It would be nice if i could find something already built.

Maybe a music-oriented programming language like Chuck, Supercollider, or Pd?

I would recommend looking at Pd (Pure Data), which, imho, is the open source version of Max/MSP, a very popular graphical programming language used for music composition as well as the creation of audio applications.

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