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Re: Isso: A Commenting Server Similar to Disqus

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Post by StavrosK »

posativ wrote: post #57
StavrosK wrote: post #47

I tried to set this up for my site, because Disqus takes two hours to load and I don't like the centralization aspect and all the bloat they're adding. However, I stumbled first thing on the "host" parameter. It doesn't seem to like the subdomain I've set up for serving the comments, and it's obviously not getting served on the top-level domain, so I don't know what it expects. The documentation doesn't mention much…

A host can also be a subdomain. I'm using Isso on my personal blog for reference: https://blog.posativ.org/ . It works exact the same way as for a top-level domain.

Right, I managed to enable it for https://www.stavros.io/ in the end, but I did see some weird crashes that I can't reproduce now. Maybe I had omitted the protocol and it didn't like that?

Regardless, it works quite well now, thank you!

Re: Isso: A Commenting Server Similar to Disqus

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Post by mitchtbaum »

posativ wrote: post #57
StavrosK wrote: post #47

I tried to set this up for my site, because Disqus takes two hours to load and I don't like the centralization aspect and all the bloat they're adding. However, I stumbled first thing on the "host" parameter. It doesn't seem to like the subdomain I've set up for serving the comments, and it's obviously not getting served on the top-level domain, so I don't know what it expects. The documentation doesn't mention much…

A host can also be a subdomain. I'm using Isso on my personal blog for reference: https://blog.posativ.org/ . It works exact the same way as for a top-level domain.

Worth mentioning for simplicity's sake, a "subdomain" is a domain, same for a "top-level domain". The period marks simply add another level of terms to a namespace on its left-hand side, usually in an already existing domain's namespace. A domain can have any number of terms that someone wants; it only needs a reachable nameserver, which ultimately the root-level operator controls. To illustrate this, you used to be able to go to http://to/ with the help of any up-to-date ICANN DNS record keeper, but that record got deleted or something (though @to email would still work, as shown in your terminal with `dig to` vs `dig mx to` or `dig any to`).

Re: Isso: A Commenting Server Similar to Disqus

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Post by kaushalmodi »

kaushalmodi wrote: post #49
radlad wrote: post #2

I'm a big fan of Isso, and have been running it on my (not at all notable) blog for a while! I do however wish that the commenter icons were customizable (e.g. Gravatar, Facebook, etc.). There have been Github issues open for it since 2014, but nobody seems willing to put in the effort to implement it. :)

Can you please share how you set up Isso with Hugo? Thanks.

If anyone is reading this, I found Isso pretty easy to set up on localhost. (1) Installing Isso was a breeze; their documentation is top-notch -- https://posativ.org/isso/docs/install/ (2) I then updated my Hugo theme to support Isso -- https://gitlab.com/kaushalmodi/hugo-theme-refined. I use this setup for my work-blog where I serve the blog+comments from my work machine. Now I only need to get a hosting server so that I can do the comment serving for my public blog.

Re: Isso: A Commenting Server Similar to Disqus

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Post by kaushalmodi »

kaushalmodi wrote: post #48
pfsak wrote: post #32

I use this for my static site. I like the lack of social login and gravatar, personally. Requiring or preferring a web of networks just to leave a comment is getting kind of crazy.

Can you please share your setup?

I was able to set it up successfully. Details -- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13713507

Re: Isso: A Commenting Server Similar to Disqus

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Post by kaushalmodi »

LordWinstanley wrote: post #16
radlad wrote: post #2

I'm a big fan of Isso, and have been running it on my (not at all notable) blog for a while! I do however wish that the commenter icons were customizable (e.g. Gravatar, Facebook, etc.). There have been Github issues open for it since 2014, but nobody seems willing to put in the effort to implement it. :)

Yeah. I'd like this too, but I'm not holding my breath as the developer comes across as a bit of an arrogant arsehole. When I first set up isso, I had a hell of a time getting it configured and running, following the pretty poor official documentation. So I visited the Github repo to ask for help but, after seeing the dev's condescending attitude to other people in difficulties, I thought better of it and [fortunatel…

Not, at least as per my experience trying to get Isso working and interacting with the developer for the first time: https://github.com/posativ/isso/issues/305. Spoiler: He helped me get Isso working!

Re: Isso: A Commenting Server Similar to Disqus

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Post by LordWinstanley »

posativ wrote: post #58
LordWinstanley wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. I'd like this too, but I'm not holding my breath as the developer comes across as a bit of an arrogant arsehole. When I first set up isso, I had a hell of a time getting it configured and running, following the pretty poor official documentation. So I visited the Github repo to ask for help but, after seeing the dev's condescending attitude to other people in difficulties, I thought better of it and [fortunatel…

Can you be more specific? I don't mind the accusation, but peope on the internet™ have often different expectations of what a software should or should not do. There is no such thing as the perfect product™. It is all about tradeoffs.

I can't be more specific at this remove, as it's a while since I set Isso up. But I found the documentation pretty unhelpful in places and, when I visited Github to chase up on some of the issues I was having, I came away with the impression, from your replies to existing issues, that your reflex position was to "blame the user" [in pretty grouchy language, in some cases], rather than to accept that your documentation could have been clearer.

Re: Isso: A Commenting Server Similar to Disqus

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Post by lamontcg »

posativ wrote: post #58
LordWinstanley wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. I'd like this too, but I'm not holding my breath as the developer comes across as a bit of an arrogant arsehole. When I first set up isso, I had a hell of a time getting it configured and running, following the pretty poor official documentation. So I visited the Github repo to ask for help but, after seeing the dev's condescending attitude to other people in difficulties, I thought better of it and [fortunatel…

Can you be more specific? I don't mind the accusation, but peope on the internet™ have often different expectations of what a software should or should not do. There is no such thing as the perfect product™. It is all about tradeoffs.

In your FAQ page you appear to be more "opinionated" that Gravator should also be considered harmful and does tracking, which cuts entirely against what you see as the point of Isso.

So you tell them to go use Disqus if they need Gravator since they're basically stating they don't care about anti-tracking.

You then also state that someone else should do the work of integrating with Libravator.

It reads a bit gruff and asshole-ish.

On the other hand, TANSTAAFL and either someone should pay you or do the work to do the Libravator integration, and it does seem very odd to pick up Isso and then want to use an avatar service that also does tracking.

Presumably those people hate Disqus for other reasons, but it certainly doesn't have to be your concern.

I'd probably write the same kind of tone in a FAQ entry as well, because if its being given away for free then the flip side is that users on the internet shouldn't be demanding assholes and want things for free that you have zero interest in providing for free, and I think you make your position reasonably clear.

shrug.

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