Zuckerberg removed a line about monitoring private messages from his manifesto

Post by mirkules » Fri, Feb 17, 2017, 3:21 PM UTC

kybernetyk wrote: post #53

dx034 wrote: post #29

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And Googles version is probably much more successful. I noticed the same with Facebook and I don't think it's very effective. Talk once about a topic or like a page and you'll see related ads for a long time. Google seems to have smarter algorithms that try to detect a trend to figure out if you're really interested in something or just mentioned it once.

Amazon is a similar offender. "Oh, you bought a fridge yesterday? How about you buy another one?"

Post by jllaneras » Fri, Feb 17, 2017, 3:24 PM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #47

jllaneras wrote: post #33

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WhatsApp is from Facebook and it implements the Signal protocol which offers end-to-end encryption. That's why Facebook with WhatsApp cannot do the same as Google does with Gmail. If they do, then their E2E encryption is fucked up.

> WhatsApp is from Facebook and it implements the Signal protocol which offers end-to-end encryption You have no way to know what is actually running on their servers.

Post by guiambros » Fri, Feb 17, 2017, 3:30 PM UTC

dx034 wrote: post #31

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #9

What is Mark Zuckerberg up to right now? He's doing a lot of of outreach, and even meet and greet tours. It's a bit like he's on the campaign trail, planning on running for political office, but maybe not exactly that. e.g.: https://www.ft.com/content/b0a6481e-d20a-11e6-9341-7393bb2e1... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/01/04/mark-zucker...

He's probably preparing for public office. While Facebook is very successful, there's little vision in it now, compared to earlier. Most of the connected world is already on Facebook (if it's not blocked in their country). And while VR is nice, it's unlikely that it could attract a billion users anytime soon (esp because of cost). I don't think that he'd want to manage a company that just fights off rivals. Becoming…

Post by joering2 » Fri, Feb 17, 2017, 3:38 PM UTC

mirkules wrote: post #61

kybernetyk wrote: post #53

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Amazon is a similar offender. "Oh, you bought a fridge yesterday? How about you buy another one?"

Actually,the really creepy thing about Amazon is that if I use their iPhone app to browse for stuff I get ads on my Facebook account for the stuff I searched. Mind you, I am near tinfoil-level conscious of "cross contamination". I use Firefox on iOS for Facebook, and I never use it for any other browsing other than FB. My name is not my real name on FB, and it's written in a non-latin alphabet. I never discuss produc…

Post by disgruntledphd2 » Fri, Feb 17, 2017, 3:47 PM UTC

RodericDay wrote: post #50

p49k wrote: post #37

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True, but they also show a preview of the page in the message, which would require fetching it. Pretty much every messaging service does that now. Also, there are legitimate reasons to scan URLs (malware, for example). Again, not trying to defend Facebook or absolve them of violating privacy, just saying that for these specific criticisms, there are technical explanations.

If you're scanning the URL for malware, why wouldn't you pick up some data mining info for the involved users while at it?