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Re: On Loneliness

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Post by xd360 »

tech_browser wrote: post #50
acqq wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only he decided to be against the "gurus", he was explicitly against every religion too. http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/about-krishnamurti/dissolution-... "I maintain that Truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect. That is my point of view, and I adhere to that absolutely and unconditionally. Truth, being limitless, unconditioned, unapproachable by any…

Most religions claim that God is a person and maintain that God created the universe, thereby making God and the universe two separate entities. Further, religion and philosophy are also mixed up. "God in heaven", "Good actions give heaven and bad ones yield hell" etc. are some statements that we often hear. The distinguishing teaching about the Upanishads is that 1. God is not a person 2. The universe, as we perceiv…

THIS. Everything that you have said here, I completely believe in that too. If one observes the world and tries to find a pattern in it, the findings will align with this theory. Would you please share in which teachings exactly did you read about this. I mean specifically about the one where they state that God is the universe itself and not a person who is different from it. Was it the Upanishads? Is there some specific book or source ? Thanks for your input.

Re: On Loneliness

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Post by radlad »

dominotw wrote: post #39
radlad wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well the linked domain is krishnamurti-teachings.info.

It's a third party site.

Okay, so try his official site: http://jkrishnamurti.org/default.php

> This website is the official repository of the teachings of J. Krishnamurti, made possible by the Krishnamurti Foundations (KFT, KFA, KFI, FKL) © 2017

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Post by dean »

antisocial wrote: post #37

The following is a gem - this has been my guiding star for more than a decade. The self hides in many ways, under every stone, the self can hide in compassion, going to India and looking after poor people, because the self is attached to some idea, faith, conclusion, belief, which makes me compassionate because I love Jesus or Krishna, and I go up to heaven. The self has many masks, the mask of meditation, the mask o…

So...everything you do, no matter how selfless, is actually selfish if you look closely enough?

Re: On Loneliness

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Post by metaphorm »

virtualwhys wrote: post #51
tech_browser wrote: post #43

Krishnamurti's teachings are based on scriptures such as Upanishads and Gita. He was averse to the notion of having a Guru (or teacher) because the teachers he had seen in his time were very steeped in orthodoxy, despite their learning. He was also against quoting verses from scriptures because he wanted to break away from the traditional teacher-student model. His teachings are appealing to many people who do not ha…

> Krishnamurti's teachings are based on scriptures such as Upanishads and Gita. "the truth is a pathless land", what place does sacred scripture hold in JK's teaching? From everything I've read by him, none. Similarly for meditation practices, which he usually described as one of many ways to avoid the truth, there was a rejection of all (non)traditional means to awakening. If anything JK's teaching is that of the Bu…

> If anything JK's teaching is that of the Buddha: negate all ways and the truth appears.

Nagarjuna's doctrine applies. Every concept is inherently void. The meaningfulness that we find within concepts is a construction of our own [deluded] minds. The truth is what's left when we accept the inherent emptiness of things.

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Post by padolsey »

maaaats wrote: post #60

Is there a point to the paragraph about the calf, squirrel, lizard, trees etc.?

I saw it as an attempt to draw a contrast between the internal struggle of the mother (and that of every human suffering from loneliness) and the relative placidity and pleasant obliviousness of nature. To me, it highlighted the power of mindfulness.

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Post by vram22 »

mapcars wrote: post #59
vram22 wrote: post #56

Anecdote: Years ago I attended a talk by him at a large open ground in Chennai. Many people including some bigwigs were present. A few memories: - at one point he said, "burn all books, including those of the speaker / author". He used to refer to himself like that, not with "I" or "me" or "mine". - at one point, in some context, he used the words "over the table, under the table" - before he could even complete the…

I didn't get the "table" joke, what is it about?

Under the table is slang in India for bribes.

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Post by quakeguy »

dean wrote: post #63
antisocial wrote: post #37

The following is a gem - this has been my guiding star for more than a decade. The self hides in many ways, under every stone, the self can hide in compassion, going to India and looking after poor people, because the self is attached to some idea, faith, conclusion, belief, which makes me compassionate because I love Jesus or Krishna, and I go up to heaven. The self has many masks, the mask of meditation, the mask o…

So...everything you do, no matter how selfless, is actually selfish if you look closely enough?

All you touch, and all you see is all your life will ever be.

-Pink Floyd, TdSotM

Re: On Loneliness

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Post by jeron »

quakeguy wrote: post #67
dean wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So...everything you do, no matter how selfless, is actually selfish if you look closely enough?

All you touch, and all you see is all your life will ever be. -Pink Floyd, TdSotM

*TDSotM

Re: On Loneliness

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Post by antisocial »

dean wrote: post #63
antisocial wrote: post #37

The following is a gem - this has been my guiding star for more than a decade. The self hides in many ways, under every stone, the self can hide in compassion, going to India and looking after poor people, because the self is attached to some idea, faith, conclusion, belief, which makes me compassionate because I love Jesus or Krishna, and I go up to heaven. The self has many masks, the mask of meditation, the mask o…

So...everything you do, no matter how selfless, is actually selfish if you look closely enough?

At first blush, it looks like that. Once you are aware of this hiding of self, that awareness itself has deep implications.

Re: On Loneliness

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Post by praneshp »

radlad wrote: post #62
dominotw wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a third party site.

Okay, so try his official site: http://jkrishnamurti.org/default.php > This website is the official repository of the teachings of J. Krishnamurti, made possible by the Krishnamurti Foundations (KFT, KFA, KFI, FKL) © 2017

That is still someone else making a website, not Krishnamurti himself.

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