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What are the cruise lines you have liked most?
Disney cruise was awesome, on one of the big new ships. I would recommend.
Ironically, Disney Cruises is owned by...Carnival.
Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruise ship workers
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#62> The three logged their hours on the ship’s time-sheet software, called “Fun Time” (Carnival Cruise Line’s motto is the “Fun Ship”). But when the number exceeded ten hours, it appeared red on the screen. No matter how many extra hours they tapped in, their pay slips rarely showed that they worked more than ten or 11 hours a day. Regie didn’t understand why he wasn’t paid for the extra work, and when he asked managem…
When I worked retail, management was always ruthless about avoiding overtime at all costs.
When I was an assistant manager at a little food place in the mall. We'd get a stern talking to by the corporate office in the sky if there was >15 minutes of overtime. That meant that either we didn't finish cleaning or I wouldn't count the drawers and safe. So I didn't get paid to count.
They would reward you with a $50 bonus if you had no OT on your shifts for a month. The odd part is that for 90s teenage mall workers, that occasionally exceeded the value of payroll saved.
Re: Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruise ship workers
#63This is why I am never ever going on a cruise ship (or any resort in Mexico, Dominican etc). Knowing that the guy serving you is basically a slave working for pennies while you are supposed to enjoy your vacation and relax- I couldn't, no thank you. What surprises me to this day is how little it costs to buy American congress. 1,000,000$ lobbying costs? That's less than a lot of houses in SF or NYC. Shouldn't it cost…
You realize that people work on cruise ships and in sweat shops because that is literally the best opportunity they have? Boycotting their meager employment will hardly make things better for them.
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Wow, that's surprising. Was that position you're describing doing software development? Where were you based?
Google wants Geographers with masters degrees to drive their Google Street View cars for minimum wage in Seattle. Their requirements are ridiculous for their lowend positions.
It's not ridiculous as long as there are Geographers with masters degrees willing to take those jobs.
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>This is why I am never ever going on a cruise ship [...] Knowing that the guy serving you is basically a slave I'm not doubting your sincerity and principles but I'd like to go beyond this particular injustice of cruise workers and understand how consumers reconcile all the "slave" inputs for the other products they buy. In the USA, many fruits and veggies are collected by cheap labor from Mexico.[1] In UK, the anal…
It's always possible to make arguments like these, and their appeal is that they're impossible to refute. It's not evident that the conditions of the Filipino cruise ship worker are worse than the Foxconn worker, the strawberry picker or the factory worker in Vietnam. However one should never turn moral consistency into a prerequisite for action - otherwise we get paralysis and inaction and nothing gets done at all.…
Most famously, this sort of non arguement was a classic defence of the soviet system when compared with the american one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_negros
Being a hypocrite on these issues is basicly unavoidable in the modern world, but the critical point here is that does not make you wrong, nor is it a refutation that such things are bad and should be changed.
Its just an easy trite dismissal to avoid examining the situation.
Re: Below Deck: Filipinos make up nearly a third of all cruise ship workers
#66Not unique to the cruise industry. Filipino crews make up a lot of the maritime industry's labor force. Container ships, tankers, offshore drilling, you name it. Some of the best food I've eaten offshore was on vessels with Filipino catering crews.
The cruise ship guys, comparatively, have it good. There are innumerable stories of entire freighter crews being marooned in third world ports by shipowners who didn't want to pay them.
The global shipping industry is, unfortunately, a race to the bottom. Every time that John McCain proposes the repeal of the Jones Act, I cringe with the thought of what it would do to what's left of the American merchant marine.
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Wow, that's surprising. Was that position you're describing doing software development? Where were you based?
Google wants Geographers with masters degrees to drive their Google Street View cars for minimum wage in Seattle. Their requirements are ridiculous for their lowend positions.
It's kind of expected when in the US you have a culture of "everyone has to go to university or you are worthless".
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>This was in western Europe. Most western Europe has socialized medicine. Was health insurance as essential as in the USA?
I don't want to dox myself, but you can probably guess which western European country doesn't. Healthcare isn't US level expensive there where you'll go bankrupt with any minor issue but still prohibitively expensive if you don't make much and break your arm for example, so it's somewhat essential. A colleague of mine got diagnosed with a serious heart condition, was away for a month or so without sick pay, got fired…
I keep hearing that you will 'go bankrupt' with every minor health issue in the US. Do you actually live in the US? Have you used US healthcare?
I pay for my own health insurance (because I own my own company) and while not cheap, it's affordable. I think I pay around $250 US/month. I get regular checkups included (most prescriptions cost me $10 or less) and I had a colonoscopy last year and it cost me less that $50.
If I had major surgery, I would be out a couple of grand. While it does have problems, it's nowhere near as bad as many would like you to think.
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> I don't want to dox myself, but you can probably guess which western European country doesn't. Maybe this is supposed to be an easy question, but as an American, I have no idea which western European country doesn't have socialized medicine, and Wikipedia is not helping me out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_univers...
Ok I'm going to give you the country, it's Ireland. Some medical card for the destitute exists but if you're working you don't qualify. The whole medical system is a nightmare, but it's a very small country as well.
From the description I assumed it was one of the more Eastern European countries like Romania. I've never looked at Ireland like that. I assumed they had the same setup as most of western EU countries.