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FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality

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Re: FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality

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Post by jrnichols »

equalarrow wrote: post #9
e40 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I wonder how all those people feel that didn't vote because it doesn't matter, they're both the same ?

This only matters - voting in the presidential elections - in the red states. If you're a liberal, progressive, futurist, etc, and you're living in states like CA or NY or OR, then statistically speaking, those states are pretty much gonna go democrat regardless. So your vote counts 'less' there. What is needed is a bunch of these people to move to swing states where the vote really matters. Places like OH, FL, etc.…

There's also the fact that voting Dev or living in California don't always equal "good for the net."

We're very aware of how much Hollywood and the RIAA/MPAA want their claws in as much of the internet as they can to "protect the entertainment industry." They were drooling over SOPA/PIPA/COICA/etc.

The democrats will happily lock up the internet in favor of their own big media/telecom interests too. That's something I think people often forget. Remember, one of the first things Obama did was hire five former RIAA lawyers to the DOJ.

Re: FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality

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Post by giarc »

ars wrote: post #49
giarc wrote: post #3

>AT&T and Verizon allow their own video services (DirecTV and Go90, respectively) to stream on their mobile networks without counting against customers' data caps, while charging other video providers for the same data cap exemptions. Isn't that the anti definition of net neutrality?

> Isn't that the anti definition of net neutrality? No because it's their own service. The definition would be for someone else's service. Let's pretend this is comcast and they are sending cable TV over the same wire as internet data. (Which they do.) Does that violate Net Neutrality? If not (and I think most people would say not), what's the difference? The bare fact that you can argue if there is or isn't a differ…

I think you're incorrect, but happy to hear arguments against.

The phrase I quoted says that the big companies allow you to use their service free of any caps, but if you want to use a 3rd parites same service you are going to be capped. Therefore it's not neutral. The 3rd parties can pay to have cap removed, which puts it into the non-neutral territory.

Re: FCC rescinds claim that AT&T and Verizon violated net neutrality

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Post by mywittyname »

equalarrow wrote: post #9
e40 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I wonder how all those people feel that didn't vote because it doesn't matter, they're both the same ?

This only matters - voting in the presidential elections - in the red states. If you're a liberal, progressive, futurist, etc, and you're living in states like CA or NY or OR, then statistically speaking, those states are pretty much gonna go democrat regardless. So your vote counts 'less' there. What is needed is a bunch of these people to move to swing states where the vote really matters. Places like OH, FL, etc.…

Please come to Ohio and inject some sanity to this world.

It's actually a decent place for technology workers: the jobs and schools are good and it offers a decent standard of living at a low cost.

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