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What should you think about when using Facebook?

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Re: What should you think about when using Facebook?

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Genuine question : do you think a privacy oriented social network where users pay a small annual fee (around $5) would work? Think Whatsapp (use phone number as an id, no native discovery, only connect through phone contacts, encrypted user data only to prevent database leaks from causing damage) + Facebook (feed like feature, share photos, videos, direct messaging, group messaging). No user tracking, no ads, just a…

The opposite may work. Paying users to use your site. After all, the data is supposedly insanely valuable, we're doing unpaid work for FB in a very real sense.

Re: What should you think about when using Facebook?

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This is an excellent blog post, though it made me sick reading it. I recently made the switch. I went from trying to limit how much I log in (to once or twice a week), to actually not logging in. I've been cold-turkey for two months (except for a couple of times when I had a very specific reason to check something). I thought it would be difficult. Turns out it's not so hard, and it's the fear of reduced social conta…

I would so love to do it, but my use of Facebook is for a specific cause and I login and participate only in a few groups (always with a browser equipped with an ad blocker and tracker blocker). I don't browse time lines or participate on people's time line posts and comments. I don't use the app. I do use the messenger app for one of my FB accounts for convenience (with minimal permissions).

Since I don't use WhatsApp (because it's an FB company and because chat is not a substitute for groups), it'd be very hard to engage with others for my use, find new people, etc.

Re: What should you think about when using Facebook?

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Permanently Delete it here: https://www.facebook.com/help/delete_account

If you are considering getting off of it for any of these reasons then why haven't you already done it? You feel you might somehow need it, just like a heroin addict has trouble imagining a life without drugs.

It is horrible for your privacy. They collect EVERYTHING about you!

It is in their best interest to manipulate your attention, which to me is terrifying.

It is horrible for your relationships, cut the acquaintance you met 5 years ago that YOU WILL NEVER SPEAK WITH and force yourself to make more intimate connections with the people that actually matter.

It is horrible for your mind, you have a constant bombardment of instant gratification and self reinforcing ideas.

Re: What should you think about when using Facebook?

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I've always had the wrong birth date on Facebook because I'm not comfortable with sharing too much personal information with that company. So people have been congratulating me on the wrong date. Which doesn't bother me at all because keeping track of peoples birthday is impossible. But I've gotten the impression from some that I've broken a taboo and that they think it is deceptive of me to have the wrong birth date displayed.

Re: What should you think about when using Facebook?

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post #36

Genuine question : do you think a privacy oriented social network where users pay a small annual fee (around $5) would work? Think Whatsapp (use phone number as an id, no native discovery, only connect through phone contacts, encrypted user data only to prevent database leaks from causing damage) + Facebook (feed like feature, share photos, videos, direct messaging, group messaging). No user tracking, no ads, just a…

Maybe if it offered free accounts for your family members.

Re: What should you think about when using Facebook?

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This is an excellent blog post, though it made me sick reading it. I recently made the switch. I went from trying to limit how much I log in (to once or twice a week), to actually not logging in. I've been cold-turkey for two months (except for a couple of times when I had a very specific reason to check something). I thought it would be difficult. Turns out it's not so hard, and it's the fear of reduced social conta…

> it's the fear of reduced social contact (or dopamine withdrawal more likely) that was stopping me.

Yeppp. I know exactly how you feel, brother. I gave up Facebook for New Years and will be deleting my account after I set up a blog so I have somewhere to blow off steam and tell bad jokes.

The compromise that helped me overcome the feeling of being cut off was that I will have an open comments section and email address, if my friends really want to stay in touch then they will take time out of their week to come say hi.

It's a lot harder than people think. And the last season of South Park was no joke... When I announced I was leaving Facebook, many people were shocked and genuinely concerned for me. They asked me if it was really necessary, if I couldn't just use it less.

But that isn't an option, it's all or nothing and within a few months I will never let Facebook save another cookie on my computer again.

But I know the concern is partially because they understand exactly what is going on in my mind but they don't see a way out. It's really depressing.

For the hell of it I briefly checked my feed last week and I felt like a recovering junkie, visiting their old friends and seeing for the first time what their lifestyle really looked like from the outside.

Re: What should you think about when using Facebook?

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Bit unrelated, but there's a working way to get rid of FB addiction. Just start unfollowing everything that you see in your "news feed". It's not visible to anyone, and you will gradually (a couple of weeks in my case) phase out of FB, just because there's nothing to see there.

But the very first step, for sure, is to admit that you have the addiction.

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