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Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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America, what you have done? Good luck with this petition! Let's fight for an open world.

It's not America that did this it's a minority of America. The rest of us feel like prisoners in our own country when faced with this kind of complete and utter insanity.

Good luck with the fight, this is not looking any good from this side of the Atlantic and brings me memories from 1938.

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post #13

Anybody else seeing that the site is broken? It says 1 vote still, even after signing and confirming my email.

Same here.

alternate facts strike again. in the old days we called this 'government propaganda'. Let people have 'free speech' but publish the party line in the news.

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

#63
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it a minority when 48% of voters elected him a few months ago?

Because the majority voted for Clinton.

Just a plurality: Clinton received the most votes of any one candidate. Not a majority (over 50%).

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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post #4

What's scary is the new immigration ban affects legal, permanent residents. US legal, permanent residents that have firmly rooted their lives in the US, only to be told they can't come home.

Overall, I don't see this as such a bad thing... But every major decision is going to have its outliers. This is a temp 90-day ban on non-reciprocating countries (and countries of concern), which the FBI said they are not able to properly vet (because those countries will not provide background info on the applicant, and some other reasons). It only affects non-citizens such as visitors, students, or employment visas…

Permanent residents are non-citizens. That's what it means.

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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post #28

Please also remember to sign the petition, in addition to discussing it in the comments! 100k signatures is a lot, but not for HackerNews ;)

And share with others. This is only one poor guy, but there's plenty more like him out there who have done everything right and jumped through the USCIS hoops to get here legally with the goal of improving their (and potentially their family's) life. This is beyond wrong and now is not the time to sit on our hands. EDIT: Link looks like it is currently broken for me too.

link is working for me but it only shows 1 person has signed it so far, which I think is just a software error

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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post #4

What's scary is the new immigration ban affects legal, permanent residents. US legal, permanent residents that have firmly rooted their lives in the US, only to be told they can't come home.

Overall, I don't see this as such a bad thing... But every major decision is going to have its outliers. This is a temp 90-day ban on non-reciprocating countries (and countries of concern), which the FBI said they are not able to properly vet (because those countries will not provide background info on the applicant, and some other reasons). It only affects non-citizens such as visitors, students, or employment visas…

> This is a temp 90-day ban on non-reciprocating countries (and countries of concern), which the FBI said they are not able to properly vet (because those countries will not provide background info on the applicant, and some other reasons). It only affects non-citizens.

The EO affects ALL legal immigrants from these countries like H1B visa holders and Green Card holders too.

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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post #2

How this is happening, the exact trajectory of how much worse these things are (and its potential to worsen) is somewhat terrifying, especially when you consider the cavalier disregard and easy ignorance that this policy represents. I know classmates and colleagues and friends who are discussing, in their groups and communities, how to best help people stranded, whether or not vacations and returns to see ill family…

Hopefully this will lead to a change in direction from delegation to the executive, to deliberated by congress.

I do think that would be a good outcome, but even if Congress were interested in revising legislation to delegate less authority to the executive (and are they?), it seems like Trump wouldn't be interested in signing such legislation. Is a veto-proof supermajority interested in it? I think so far, no.

It's possible we may get some useful legal precedents, though, if some of this ends up in the courts. A good number of conservative judges are already skeptical of both excessive executive delegation and federal-government overreach, and were making moves in that direction during Obama's administration. Will Trump cause some liberal judges who have traditionally had differing views to wake up to the danger of such an executive, without an equal-or-greater number of conservative judges suddenly having a change of heart in the opposite direction? And will good test cases arise, with standing, etc.? Maybe, maybe not, but it's possible.

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

#69
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You think Donald will sell his stake in projects in Turkey?

What happens when some terrorist group makes the extremely tactically-obvious decision to attack the Trump Towers there? It's not like there's any shortage of US-hostile terrorists with the ability to reach Istanbul. (Honestly, what happens when any Trump property around the world gets attacked? They've got giant signs advertising that the president of the US cares about them, and they don't have anywhere near the pr…

Tbh I'm surprised this hasn't happened yet. All the countries that dislike him/US && have Trump property.... Seems like those are easy targets especially considering how sensitive he is to his brand image it would make the attacks all the more alluring.
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