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China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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Re: China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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And by "unauthorized", they mean "all".

I heard that Baidu and some other Internet companies in China have these kind of unfiltered connection (maybe to use Google? Haha). I don't if these are "authorized" or not.

They are authorized. All companies has to apply this "specialized line" for Internet accessing. If there's anything they do not like, they could find the person responsible for this easily.

Re: China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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post #6

> "No unauthorized use of VPNs through March 2018." I was wondering, "what just happened internally in China that they want to censor for a year or so?" Then it dawned on me...they want to censor everything until the 2018 Winter Olympics is over with. I was wondering if Trump had tweeted, "free Tibet," or something like that.

they don't want people to have access to inconvenient information. dates are inconsequential.

Re: China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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Just want to mention Streisand here; it's an opensource project that helps you to "setup a new server running L2TP/IPsec, OpenConnect, OpenSSH, OpenVPN, Shadowsocks, sslh, Stunnel, a Tor bridge, and WireGuard. It also generates custom instructions for all of these services. At the end of the run you are given an HTML file with instructions that can be shared with friends, family members, and fellow activists".

Github here: https://github.com/jlund/streisand

Re: China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$300 per megabit?? Did you mean GB or TB maybe?

I think he means per mbit/s, not per mbit. e.g. $300 would get an unmetered line with a 1mbit/s max throughput

Indeed, this is how bandwidth is sold.

To get an idea of how much $300/mo is, I just had a quote for a 1 gig dedicated ethernet from our office (not a datacentre) in Delhi to our rack in Telehouse Docklands North for $18k a month, or $18/mbit. For datacentre-datacentre I had a quote from Seoul KINX for $5k/month, or $5/mbit. Layer 2 links in both cases. These are fairly long haul links.

Re: China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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post #17

Here's my translation as a Chinese native, though I'm no technical expert. Companies that provide IDC, ISP, CDN services, without authorization, are prohibited to set up or lease connections (including virtual private networks), to conduct business operations across borders. I guess it means if you're a ISP etc, you're not allowed to sell VPN services without authorization. It says nothing about individuals purchasin…

> It's nonetheless a chilling sign that they're restricting VPN access, which is consistent with the overall tightening of internet control that's been going on for quite a while.

It is also consistent with the worldwide tightening of internet. Trump and May are much more likely to applaud the latest Chinese effort than criticise.

Chinese internet management is the model that will lead the West. Quite a reversal, quite depressing too.

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post #56

What about RDP into a remote VM? Surely they can't block RDP, techcos in China need to be able to run servers outside of China. Would that go around VPN restrictions?

I know they used to use ssh tunneling a while ago, idk if they still do.

Re: China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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post #65
post #17

Here's my translation as a Chinese native, though I'm no technical expert. Companies that provide IDC, ISP, CDN services, without authorization, are prohibited to set up or lease connections (including virtual private networks), to conduct business operations across borders. I guess it means if you're a ISP etc, you're not allowed to sell VPN services without authorization. It says nothing about individuals purchasin…

> It's nonetheless a chilling sign that they're restricting VPN access, which is consistent with the overall tightening of internet control that's been going on for quite a while. It is also consistent with the worldwide tightening of internet. Trump and May are much more likely to applaud the latest Chinese effort than criticise. Chinese internet management is the model that will lead the West. Quite a reversal, qui…

"tightening" to us, perhaps. Loosening to them...

Re: China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think he means per mbit/s, not per mbit. e.g. $300 would get an unmetered line with a 1mbit/s max throughput

Indeed, this is how bandwidth is sold. To get an idea of how much $300/mo is, I just had a quote for a 1 gig dedicated ethernet from our office (not a datacentre) in Delhi to our rack in Telehouse Docklands North for $18k a month, or $18/mbit. For datacentre-datacentre I had a quote from Seoul KINX for $5k/month, or $5/mbit. Layer 2 links in both cases. These are fairly long haul links.

You must be doing relatively small commits (100mbit on a 1Gbps commit?), though I suppose connecting from India may be more expensive than intra-EU. I've been quoted <$2/mbit for UK-Hong Kong for 40Gbps on a 100Gbps commit

Re: China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every hotel I've stayed at in China that caters to Westerners had a VPN in place. You could check your Gmail at the hotel but not outside of it (unless you had your own VPN).

Only true in Shenzhen and Guangzhou, not any other city in china as far as I can tell.

My hotel in Shanghai last month had a VPN for guests too. The further you go inland the crazier the restrictions get.

Re: China tightens Great Firewall by declaring unauthorised VPN services illegal

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post #65
post #17

Here's my translation as a Chinese native, though I'm no technical expert. Companies that provide IDC, ISP, CDN services, without authorization, are prohibited to set up or lease connections (including virtual private networks), to conduct business operations across borders. I guess it means if you're a ISP etc, you're not allowed to sell VPN services without authorization. It says nothing about individuals purchasin…

> It's nonetheless a chilling sign that they're restricting VPN access, which is consistent with the overall tightening of internet control that's been going on for quite a while. It is also consistent with the worldwide tightening of internet. Trump and May are much more likely to applaud the latest Chinese effort than criticise. Chinese internet management is the model that will lead the West. Quite a reversal, qui…

Good thing the Internet is under decentralised international control, then!

…oh, right.

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