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Post by huac »

Gargoyle wrote: post #52
huac wrote: post #4

When I remark that President Obama had eight years without any ethical shadiness, Mr. Thiel flips it, noting: “But there’s a point where no corruption can be a bad thing. It can mean that things are too boring.” I gasped when I read this

Personally I think it's a realistic statement. A recognition that a least a low level of corruption is part and parcel of Things Happening. Think about the California High Speed Rail project. It's not going to happen without some low grade corruption involved. Good Ol Boys giving other Good Ol Boys the inside track on certain opportunities. That's just something that happens in the real world. If it's not happening,…

I mean, no, it's called a competitive bidding process.

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Post by aceperry »

sportanova wrote: post #56
aceperry wrote: post #33

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"IRS interference in an election against political opponents" That was a misrepresentation of what happened. And not due to Obama.

So I'm sure that you would agree that the current alleged russian interference is a misrepresentation and not due to putin

The Russian interference has nothing to do with the misrepresentation of IRS activities.

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Post by [deleted] »

kafkaesq wrote: post #60
argonaut wrote: post #41

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The evidence of Bill's sexual harassment is actually much thinner, since there is no tape or anything except several women's accusations (his confirmed affairs are a different matter - they were consensual and Trump also had plenty of affairs and these weren't the issue). And in one case there are several other people who testify against that woman. Preponderance of evidence is there is a greater than 50% chance of i…

And in each case there are several other people who testify against that woman . I don't have time to get into the fine-grain of it with you -- but if that's your impression then I'd suggest you look more closely into the basic event chronology. (What you're saying about counter-testimony has some relevance to the Wiley case; but to the Jones and Broaddrick cases, none to speak of). Preponderance of evidence is there…

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Post by cderwin »

dragonwriter wrote: post #48
cderwin wrote: post #44

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He can be entirely and uniformly contrarian throughout his entire life without being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. We have no idea beyond wild guesses why he is contrarian.

Being contrarian is being contrary for the sake of being contrary .

Not according to the dictionary (maybe some, but it's clearly not a consensus): http://www.dictionary.com/browse/contrarian

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Post by sean_patel »

ralfd wrote: post #36
sean_patel wrote: post #24

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> “It was a miracle neither of us were hurt,” Crashing “the fastest car in the world.” and coming out of it without a scratch = Made up story. It seems like Thiel makes up exicting heroic stories, just like Trump, to compensate for an otherwise boring excitement-less life.

I guess you learned today something: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mOI8GWoMF4M

Nope. Again, made up (thanks for the downvote everyone). Why wasn't this in the news? No pictures, no accident report, nothing? If the two did indeed "wreck" the car, surely there must've been an insurance report. And you are telling me that not a single SV rag or blog or newspaper has anything on this other than the two of them talking about it?

1 main reason I am calling BS on the story is cos Theil alleges he wasn't wearing a seat belt, and the car wrecked. My cousin DIED because he wasn't wearing a seat belt, and he didn't wreck the car, he hit a tree on the corner at 25 mph (yep 25 mph).

The only wreck pics that come up are the ones of his Model S crash. There's absolutely nothing on this alleged crash/wreck that Theil and Musk were allegedly involved in and came out "without a scratch". https://www.google.com/search?site=&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1...

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Post by sean_patel »

thevardanian wrote: post #32
sean_patel wrote: post #24

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> “It was a miracle neither of us were hurt,” Crashing “the fastest car in the world.” and coming out of it without a scratch = Made up story. It seems like Thiel makes up exicting heroic stories, just like Trump, to compensate for an otherwise boring excitement-less life.

I heard that story first from Elon...

"head from Elon..." really. How cute.

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Post by [deleted] »

aceperry wrote: post #35
sean_patel wrote: post #20

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Also mass deportation that earned him the DIC(K) title - Deportation-in-Chief: Source: http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21595902-expelling-rec...

Is that really shady behavior?

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Post by RobertKerans »

aoeu345 wrote: post #54
edblarney wrote: post #18

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Most of these guys are not really geniuses, they are good, smart guys who made some money and started to believe their own hype long ago, and nobody dares call them out on it. They are surrounded by enablers. Paradoxically - this is a path to success - their self-belief is so strong that it's very convincing - and so long as they have 'success' to point to - then it all snowballs from there. The press writes 'puff pi…

Most of these guys are not really genuises You have one anecdote to support your sour grapes claim that America's current best innovators are all frauds. Support the men and women who are building our future, your children depend on them.

'not a genius' is not the same as 'a fraud', they can still be very successful. They are very smart in certain areas, and they are extremely good selling things in certain areas, but 'genius' is a bit much

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Post by ianai »

cderwin wrote: post #44
ianai wrote: post #16

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Yes but being contrary for the sake of contrarianism is anarchy. I got the impression he wanted no information to be given out there. I still have no idea what he wants. His reasoning and method of thought, though, lead me to suspect he may want some technological innovations at any cost. Or, he may be incredibly shortsighted about Trump. Or just out for chaos. The contrarian thing may have been a rhetorical tactic t…

He can be entirely and uniformly contrarian throughout his entire life without being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. We have no idea beyond wild guesses why he is contrarian.

Sure we do. Judge the man by his actions. He had this interview and stated contrary views to everything under the sun. Seems like he wants to be mysterious by answering with contradictions.
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