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Re: How Yahoo came up with its new name: Altaba

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Post by zump »

paulddraper wrote: post #29
__jal wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of it is that this is HN, and Yahoo as an internet company has been boring for a long, long time[1]. Another part of it is that it shows the incredible value of inertia. Sports scores and email is with $5B. And I think a third is just a bit of schadenfreude from the internet insider set. Selling half of yourself to a Baby Bell-revenant and turning the rest into a tracking stock is a sad way for the first interne…

> Part of it is that this is HN, and Yahoo as an internet company has been boring for a long, long time It's like the Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing Company ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3M ). They make $30 billion in annual sales with 55k products. How often do you hear about them? They're big, profitable, and news is mostly boring to HN interests.

Same with the semiconductor industry. There are many profitable industries that don't release a webapp or use a JS framework.

Re: How Yahoo came up with its new name: Altaba

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LargeCompanies wrote: post #35
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #21

Still the third most visited Web property in the United States According to Alexa it's the 5th [1] but I'm sure it's not a huge difference between third and fifth. Yahoo still makes almost $5BN a year. It's a 24 year old internet behemoth. I mean by any reasonable measure of a company, those are ungodly numbers. Given how people talk about Yahoo though you'd think it was populated with lepers. I guess it's all about…

It's populated with Trump voters! Internet neophytes who cluelessly spread fake news and use Yahoo email. That is the Internet population Verizon bought which probably is a good ad clicking demograhic to buy into. While the majority here are progressive thinkers technologically and politically who don't click on ads. We may have a Yahoo email account for spam only and or used Yahoo email circa pre 2005.

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Re: How Yahoo came up with its new name: Altaba

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Post by [deleted] »

paulddraper wrote: post #29
__jal wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of it is that this is HN, and Yahoo as an internet company has been boring for a long, long time[1]. Another part of it is that it shows the incredible value of inertia. Sports scores and email is with $5B. And I think a third is just a bit of schadenfreude from the internet insider set. Selling half of yourself to a Baby Bell-revenant and turning the rest into a tracking stock is a sad way for the first interne…

> Part of it is that this is HN, and Yahoo as an internet company has been boring for a long, long time It's like the Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing Company ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3M ). They make $30 billion in annual sales with 55k products. How often do you hear about them? They're big, profitable, and news is mostly boring to HN interests.

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Re: How Yahoo came up with its new name: Altaba

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Post by StevePerkins »

LargeCompanies wrote: post #44
LargeCompanies wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's populated with Trump voters! Internet neophytes who cluelessly spread fake news and use Yahoo email. That is the Internet population Verizon bought which probably is a good ad clicking demograhic to buy into. While the majority here are progressive thinkers technologically and politically who don't click on ads. We may have a Yahoo email account for spam only and or used Yahoo email circa pre 2005.

Im speaking demographically and from what I see on Facebook a lot of older people who have no clue how the Internet works like we do here. They believe everything they see on the web and share it. They don't use Gmail as a whole and as for the politics comment ... older people were a huge majority who voted for Trump. These are facts ... not someone trolling here.

I don't think you're being downvoted by people who necessarily disagree with you. I think you're being downvoted out of fatigue. Not EVERY thread needs to pivot to discussing Trump's latest tweet, or how deplorable everyone over 30 is, etc.

Re: How Yahoo came up with its new name: Altaba

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Post by JPLeRouzic »

analognoise wrote: post #51
JPLeRouzic wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wi-Max or alternatives like DIY long range Wi-Fi, cannot have both 10 miles (~15 km) range and high throughput. At the very minimum because earth curvature, and also because the radio signal has to go right through the moisture in between the sender and receiver. I came up a few years ago with the idea that it would be possible to use the mesospheric layer as a passive relay for communications at 40 miles range in de…

Sure you can, you just need a bigger tower; you can get gigabit speeds with microwaves, no sweat, very directional too. Signal loss due to moisture? Up the power. It doesn't work? Use more power, or add 5 feet to the tower and try again. Remember, if brute force isn't working, you aren't using enough of it. BTW: I like how you kinda gloss over the advanced math for atmospheric corrections. The idea is interesting, th…

Thanks for having read the stuff.

* About the horizon problem: You need a tower which is 90 meters (270 feet) high to reach a 40 km receiver. It exists but it is pretty costly ... and hugly.

* About the power problem, this is regulated. For Wi-Fi I think it is around 80mW. It is not much.

* About glossing on math. You are right about it, but after all this is well known: The idea is used heavily in astronomy exactly for this purpose since 10 years. No need to reinvent what more gifted people have already invented.

Re: How Yahoo came up with its new name: Altaba

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Post by empath75 »

apaprocki wrote: post #4
yeukhon wrote: post #3

Well, one wonders how AOL still strike to survive after all these years. MSN gone. Yahoo gone.

We just had this discussion at work.. one of the recent reports stated over 2 million subscribers still pulling in ~600 million a year just from that (pales in comparison to ad revenue and past performance, but still... 2 million!). The average per-account income was something like $21/month.

It's also almost pure profit, compared to the ads business. Something like 90% of AOL's actual profit is from dialup.
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