As a user, I've found AMP results to be invariable an excellent user experience on mobile. I will always click an AMP link over a non-AMP link, when on mobile, because I know the AMP link will load quickly and be usable, and the odds are good the non-AMP link will not. Apparently this is a minority view around here. :)
It totally is a great experience. The page loads fast without too much crap. But it's also sad that something not-quite-open is taking over an important part of the web. AMP is this Google-wrapped version of a part of the web that tries to keep you in Google's land rather than allowing you to browse the site you visited. As a user, I like clicking on AMP links. But in a certain way, it's like eating candy. I know it'…
You can't disable Google AMP
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Re: You can't disable Google AMP
#62Kind of a self-defeating thing that they claim to make the web universally better and then force everyone to use technology that is clearly broken on so many search pages and then actively try and prevent you from using the old, actually working links.
Needless to say, I'm currently using DuckDuckGo on all of my mobile devices and am considering switching to it on my computers as well. It baffles me that Google gets away with the things they've been doing recently. I used to be really happy they exist, now I kinda wish they had tougher competition and weren't in many de-facto monopolistic positions. Other than the fact that they barely support anything they offer, be it "free" or paid products, they change and shut down projects almost monthly.
They are slowly turning Chrome into a walled garden going so far as to remove your own, manually installed extensions when they don't like what you're using. They ruined hangouts, which was a really great, even standout VOIP platform that offered not only the convenience of being browser-based, but all these plugins that would come in handy while producing content (like volume adjustments on participants and an export feature, for podcasting or D&D) or drawing boards or group YouTube video playback. They messed up mobile search with AMP, in an effort to dominate the web even more. They shut down Panoramio. They promised to fix Android for years and even 6 years after it became mainstream, the experience is noticeably less smooth than the competition, etcetcetc.
Using a Google product is only recommended if you're not planning on investing into a long-term future it seems.
Unfortunately, however convenient it was to rely on a single platform, for now I think possible solution is to look for alternatives and show our dislike by hitting them where it hurts: their install base.
Re: You can't disable Google AMP
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even more annoying: when the entire article loads, I read the first couple paragraphs, THEN it hides everything behind the "Read Full Story" link! It's infuriating! AMP gives a great user experience on mobile, at least speed-wise. I haven't had any real complaints as a user. (Disclaimer: I work for a non-Google Alphabet company.)
> Disclaimer: I work for a non-Google Alphabet company. I.e. you work for Google, but not in advertising. The attempted rebranding has been awfully heavy-handed lately.
Re: You can't disable Google AMP
#64As a user, I've found AMP results to be invariable an excellent user experience on mobile. I will always click an AMP link over a non-AMP link, when on mobile, because I know the AMP link will load quickly and be usable, and the odds are good the non-AMP link will not. Apparently this is a minority view around here. :)
My specific gripes around AMP as an iPhone user: 1. Scrolling momentum is very different, making it feel non-native 2. The URL bar doesn't hide normally. Scroll down in portrait mode and it doesn't hide. 3. The URL bar doesn't un-hide normally. Switch to landscape mode and scroll up, the URL bar does not reveal itself. 4. Safari Reader mode often doesn't work. 5. Scrolling before the page is done loading can make it…
Is it different from other web pages, or from scrolling a native app? At the end of the day, an AMP site is HTML.
Re: You can't disable Google AMP
#65The place to complain about AMP isn't Google... it's the sites that AMP-enable their content. If enough people tell publishers "I've stopped reading your site because of AMP" maybe they'll take notice.
This is just the beginning guys. It shows the BS business Google Search has become. Either comply to Google Internet™ or get lost.
If Google collapsed tomorrow, nothing of value will be lost and I'm awaiting eagerly for that day to come.
Re: You can't disable Google AMP
#66As a user, I've found AMP results to be invariable an excellent user experience on mobile. I will always click an AMP link over a non-AMP link, when on mobile, because I know the AMP link will load quickly and be usable, and the odds are good the non-AMP link will not. Apparently this is a minority view around here. :)
My specific gripes around AMP as an iPhone user: 1. Scrolling momentum is very different, making it feel non-native 2. The URL bar doesn't hide normally. Scroll down in portrait mode and it doesn't hide. 3. The URL bar doesn't un-hide normally. Switch to landscape mode and scroll up, the URL bar does not reveal itself. 4. Safari Reader mode often doesn't work. 5. Scrolling before the page is done loading can make it…
This is exceptionally annoying, I agree. As a tip though, if you tap the 'sharing' widget, and scroll, you'll see a 'request desktop site' option that will give you the 'proper' URL.
Re: You can't disable Google AMP
#67The thing about AMP is that it takes work. You cannot just install an AMP plugin and expect your existing website to suddenly serve AMP. However, with certain CMS's, that's exactly how things are marketed. So what we're seeing is people go off and buy themes or whatever to make their website look the way they want, then they install some plugin and say "done". And then they are taken by surprise when, on mobile, thei…
Until Google deprecates it in July.
Re: You can't disable Google AMP
#68As a user, I've found AMP results to be invariable an excellent user experience on mobile. I will always click an AMP link over a non-AMP link, when on mobile, because I know the AMP link will load quickly and be usable, and the odds are good the non-AMP link will not. Apparently this is a minority view around here. :)
My specific gripes around AMP as an iPhone user: 1. Scrolling momentum is very different, making it feel non-native 2. The URL bar doesn't hide normally. Scroll down in portrait mode and it doesn't hide. 3. The URL bar doesn't un-hide normally. Switch to landscape mode and scroll up, the URL bar does not reveal itself. 4. Safari Reader mode often doesn't work. 5. Scrolling before the page is done loading can make it…
1. Scrolling seems native to me. I just tried it again, maybe it seemed off for a moment. It's hard to tell. I don't find that the scrolling is broken as it is on many websites, and it's not difficult to achieve with -webkit-overflow-scroll: touch in one's CSS, i.e. they could fix this if it's not native already.
2. The URL bar does indeed remain visible. This is normal behaviour when you disable overflow scrolling on the root/body element and enable it on a child element instead. There are a couple of reasons to do this: if you want to size your page relative to the viewport and don't want that size to change when the user scrolls up and down, i.e. you don't want that size to change due to a disappearing/reappearing URL bar, you can force the URL bar to stay visible, thereby forcing a constant height, by doing what I described.
3. This definitely doesn't happen to me.
4. I have yet to encounter an AMP link that didn't work with Safari Reader. I would blame the author of the specific AMP page before blaming AMP as a whole if it works most of the time on other websites.
5. seems like a hazard with most dynamic websites.
6. I cannot say I have experienced, but I do not use Reddit, so maybe that's why.
7. is true. Can't avoid that, regrettably — the whole point of AMP is to serve the site from Google's CDN (and to use AMP components to follow best practices for loading assets). However, I wouldn't call it a disadvantage.
8. I do not find it confusing.
I think 2/3/8 are parts of a bigger and more general problem. The AMP bar simply isn't necessary. It's part of Google's system of control around their AMP pages. AMP should just be an optional way to display pages, there shouldn't be this whole sub-app experience of flicking between AMP articles once an article has been selected from the Google SERP.
It's a nice idea and everything, but what they should have done is implement a similar thing to the Safari reading list, where you're suggested the next article at the bottom of the one you're reading, rather than having an ugly ass navigation bar occupy 10% of the screen.
For one thing, this breaks the gestures for going backwards and forwards in navigation history in iOS Safari, which I would expect to be the first and foremost complaint by any iOS Safari user grappling with AMP.
Re: You can't disable Google AMP
#69Like the other commenters here, I really disliked amp for a variety of reason such as the bar on top and the inability to easily link the main version of the page. However, I'be come to feel that we've brought this on ourselves as Web developers by making every website incredibly bloated and only possible to use on high speed connections. I've spent the past month in thailand on a much slower connection and the only…
Oh that damn bar on the top...
Re: You can't disable Google AMP
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
How about a similar lightning bolt for sites with < 1s loading time and no popups that just show the content?
In that case it should be relatively easy to provide an AMP version of the page. If you already offer a lean page, it's not much to change.
It seems counter-intuitive to slow a page to get a lightning bolt.